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[Gathering and spreading knowledge: publications

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and the Army Medical Library around World War 1; 2015]

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[Ken Koyle:] Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for coming to this

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afternoon's History of Medicine lecture. I'm Ken Koyle. I'm the Deputy Chief of the

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History of Medicine Division here. And before I introduce today's speaker,

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I'd like to let everyone know that our next History of Medicine lecture will be January 28th,

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2016 when Doctor Eric Boyle from the National Museum of Health and Medicine.

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Will examine the history of complimentary and alternative medicine

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at the NIH. In a presentation co-sponsored by

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the National Center for Complimentary and Integrative Health

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and by the Office of NIH History. And I hope that you will all mark your calendars and join us on

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January 28th for that lecture. But on for today's lecture. Our speaker today is a friend and

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a longtime colleague of mine, Doctor Sanders Marble. Doctor Marble earned his undergraduate

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degree at the College of William and Mary. And his graduate degrees at King's College

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University of London. And he's worked for and written

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for ehistory.com, for the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History and

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for the Army Medical Department, both in the Office of Medical History and previously as the command

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historian for the Walter Reed Army Medical Center and the North Atlantic Regional Medical Command.

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Since 2010, he has held the post of Senior Historian with the Office of Medical

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History at Fort Sam Houston, Texas, a position that has included a tour in Afghanistan collecting

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the history of medical support to military operations in that region.

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Doctor Marble has written or edited about half a dozen books and numerous

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articles and chapters on artillery, military medicine, and military personnel,

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including Skilled and resolute History of the 12th Evacuation Hospital and the 212th MASH.

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From 1917 to 2006, which was published in 2013 and Rehabilitating the Wounded,

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Historical Perspectives on Army Policy, published in 2008. Doctor Marble is a volunteer with

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the US World War One Centennial Commission and is helping to organize

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an international conference on on the medical history of the Vietnam War,

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which will take place in Texas in March of 2016. And Doctor Marble is actively seeking

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proposals for that that program. You have to get them in soon, though I think the deadline

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has already passed. Doctor Marbles topic for today is Gathering and spreading knowledge

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publications and the Army Medical Library around World War One. There will be time for some

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questions and answers at the end. If you have questions for Doctor Marble,

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please use the the mics in front of you by pushing the button on the

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desk which will light up your mic so you'll know that it's active. Doctor Marble.

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[Dr. Marble:] Thanks for that very generous introduction and there's a sign

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over here saying please make an announcement if you didn't notice the three signs on the way in.

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There's no food or beverage in here.

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I work for the Department of Defense. I have to make a disclaimer that these views are are mine.

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They are not the official position of the Department of Defense, Department of the Army,

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or any other part of the US government. Don't worry about that. It's just pro forma.

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Today I'm going to talk about how the Army Medical Department gathered and distributed.

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I got to be careful with my gestures and not hit the mics knowledge around

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the time of World War One, before, certainly during and a little bit after.

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And I I want to focus on the Army Medical Library's role in that.

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And now the doors are closed and you're in here.

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The library was actually not the key node,

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so we'll have to see what the

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Army did to to replace that. I should thank various of my

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colleagues in San Antonio who helped me refine ideas

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and sat through a rough presentation of this.

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More than most history projects, this really actively engaged my librarian and archivist

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colleagues instead of just using the wonderful resources they have.

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I need you to think about an anachronistic term, but think about this and then

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not pay it too much attention. Before, during and after World War One,

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the Army Medical Department had to collect, categorize, and then distribute

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information. That is knowledge management. And while there were Hollerith cards

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and and other IT technologies of the day, I'm really not going to focus

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on information technology. So who here is a librarian?

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Yeah, quite a few historians?

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Yeah, okay, one loner. Physicians? Okay,

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I think you'll all have different perspectives on this knowledge management

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from your professional backgrounds. Now, the Surgeon General's library

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started in 1836. At first, I don't think it was very much of a library.

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It was a bookcase with books on it.

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Yeah, they collected material about medicine, especially military medicine,

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and it was a repository of information. You could use it if you visited. If you were an army doctor,

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you could write in and say, hey, I'd like some information about X or I'd like to borrow book Y.

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And they would do that. And they would also send information out. They would push out orders.

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They would send advice by letters around the Army. But of course, this is 1830s,

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1840s fifties. There's not a whole lot of good advice to send out.

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The Army starts producing some

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medical information, but there's no expectation of a quick turnaround.

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This circular is produced this sorry, this published four months of data,

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but it's two years into the war, so it's not, you know it not particularly useful.

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It's also descriptive data. Without prescriptions about what you should do.

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Individual doctors would look at this if they chose to, and then see how to best they

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thought to use it. Now it is part of William [Alexander] Hammond's efforts to gather information in the

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Surgeon General's library and the Army Medical Museum that he created. Now Hammond is expanding and

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establishing repositories for knowledge, but I don't think the mid 19th century

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circumstances are really great for pushing prescriptive information outwards.

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The Army sends out material for information. You know, again, you can decide what to

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do with the doctor and especially given how loosey-goosey medical diagnosis are,

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surgical surgery is different from medicine. Medicine is much more loosey-goosey

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in this time. The data would have had relatively little value you could interpret.

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You know whether whether patient has recurring fever or intermittent fever.

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Differently from another doctor. I'll give them credit for trying.

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But then this may have been more of a public relations public document

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and the Army Medical Department was under fire for the the rate of

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sickness and the the certainly the number of deaths from sickness.

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And they may have wanted to publish some statistics to make it look less bad.

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1863 sorry, 1865, this is one of the first books in the

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world to have surgical photographs. And again, the Army Medical Department

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is gathering and creating knowledge. You know that depends on your perspective

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and making it available and the museum is hugely important in this period.

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I think Shauna Devine has talked behind

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this very podium about that topic. And the in peacetime,

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you can just see the dates there that they continue publishing in peacetime.

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The Army is publishing this four years after a Lister publishes his article on antiseptic surgery,

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and if so, my point being this isn't a time when the Army is not doing a lot of surgery,

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so a few years is needed to get a robust data set.

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They continue gathering information and passing it around, but it's quite slow.

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Data collection for this publication began in the spring of 1868.

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And this information is finally being used for an argument.

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The main body of the report is descriptive, but the introduction by Doctor John Shaw Billings

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points out that better ventilation reduces respiratory diseases and that

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money spent on barracks reduces the Army's sick rate and thus keeps troops fit

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for duty and reduces medical expenses. He's trying to make an economic argument

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to Army leadership and to the Congress. That to get better facilities and he he

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reaches into the medical data for that. This report, also overseen by Billings,

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was rather quicker. This is all done in about 6 months.

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Data call went out in October of 74. It also covers a lot of things

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that we don't call hygiene today. The food of the Army, its quantity,

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quality and mode of preparation. Is the food of the men's inspected daily?

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Military punishments and their effect on the health and morale of the men.

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Personal cleanliness of the men. What are the post regulations, if any, with regard to bathing?

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What facilities are afforded? How often are the men's blankets washed?

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Again, the medical department is looking at making the Army healthier,

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looking for the best ways to do that, and literally airing the Army's dirty laundry.

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Both of these circulars were quite hefty, #4 was over 500 pages and

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this one is over 600 pages. Now these are being researched and

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published from the Army Medical Library. The librarian,

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Billings is converting it from a repository

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where information sits to a locus for the intellectually curious. There's of course a good

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literature on Billings. He could be probably has been the subject of a talk just by himself.

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And I'm not going to try and tease apart what portion of the the change in the

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late 19th century is due to Billings. What portion is due to

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surgeons general that come and go. My my point is that the AMED, the Army Medical Department used its

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library as an applied research tool. Now that may have been where the because the library was where

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underutilized hands were. You know the Surgeon General's

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office had only about six officers and 20 clerks and they were busy with routine administration.

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Billings had more time on his hands. That's not to take anything away from Billings.

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I have enormous respect for the variety of things he did. And the medical library was not alone.

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The medical surgical history was produced mostly from the museum.

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The six volumes are published over 1870 to 88. They are quite valuable,

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but there's clearly a long lag between the events and the publication.

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Now that's fine for history. That's probably important for history to get some perspective.

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But it's not a good way to pass around anything that's time sensitive.

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From 1880, Billings at the medical library was also producing the index catalog.

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I'm not going to belabor that for the audience here, but it not only organized knowledge

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by publishing that organized volume and soliciting more publications using doctor's vanity.

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I think doctor's vanity is the reason that the Army Medical Library became

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the world's largest medical library. The medical library brought together

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more and more knowledge and made itself more and more useful. And then it's also pushing,

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It's organizing this knowledge and pushing it back out. The catalog is not just available on site,

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but print runs are well over 1000 volumes. It's a print runs it by World War One,

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or about between 1000 and 1500 copies a year. Now the Index Medicus will be a worthy companion,

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the monthly review of publications rather than the much slower, much slower,

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but more comprehensive Index Cat. In 1893,

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the Army establishes a school. You can guess what it's called to train doctors.

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Some of it's in Army related topics like equitation. Dr. has to ride with his troops,

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some of it's in Army clinical matters like sanitation that a civilian Dr.

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wouldn't necessarily worry about, and some of it's in clinical things that are

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not necessarily common in medical school, like microscopy.

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The Army had a baseline standard for not just medical not just military topics,

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but medical topics that were not necessarily taught in schools. But the school is sized for

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the number of doctors that come into the Army any given year. There's no correspondence

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courses for anybody else. There is no follow up courses for guys

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10 or or so years into their career. This is, I think really the only place the Army

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pushes medical knowledge to doctors. They they will send out a circular letter

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occasionally.  They can do that, but this is the formal place

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to make people smarter. Skipping and hopping ahead.

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Nothing to do with the medical library now, but this is a case of of the Army

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producing and disseminating knowledge. Reed, Vaughan and Shakespeare

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discover how typhoid is communicated, including the aha moment of well

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moments of the asymptomatic carrier and indeed the very idea of a carrier state.

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This is the 239 page preliminary report. Four years later they come out with

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the 1600 page doorstop report.

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I think this is a time when book type publishing met the information cycle.

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Nothing could be published before the date is analyzed, so getting at a really good preliminary

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report in 18 months is very good, with other things going on in the background,

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Reed himself is busy with yellow fever. The Surgeon General's office is busy with political fallout

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from the Spanish American War.  You're going to have a lag in publishing the full report.

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And I'm also not entirely sure what that full report gets you. More data to hit people over the head?

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Okay. The circulars on posts and hygiene 25 years in the past.

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But they're also correlative this and what we get around the turn of the century is that the the

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doctors have step by step science to back up what they're arguing and

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and what the army doctor is then. Saying to a unit commander, hey, you need to put the latrines

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downstream from the water supply because here's the science, not just because we have correlative

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data that that says it's smarter.

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Let's go 10 years forward. These bulletins started in January 1913

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under Surgeon General George H. Torney. I don't know that he had a personal impact on creating them.

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But he did build up the medical school at the time. He may well have been involved in this.

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There was some hope that these would be quarterly, but that never happened.

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They turned out to be enormously erratic. There are 10 / 36 months.

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Most of these would also be monographs. 45 pages, 133 pages, 97 pages.

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So they don't fit as an article, they don't fit as a book,

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and they can't get published any other way. But, it's a publishing route that

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is under the Surgeon General's control.  And I have to apologize. I took some bad images along the way.

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Now the Army, not the, not the medical department, but the Army certainly had

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ways to push out information. There's a there is a book of Army regulations at this time.

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It is a book and it is enormously thick. Getting something changed around

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that applied across the Army. It meant that it had to be staffed through the whole army you had.

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You had to get everybody to agree that it didn't bother them. I meant, you know,

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the analog here would be getting HHS to approve everything that you have to do.

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So, but if it's something that only applies in your sphere, so in the medical department,

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something that applies there, you don't have to ask the rest of the army.

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Especially so for clinical things the the medical department can move much quicker.

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The circular letter, an arcane term, that, that's what they called it. Still,

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the circular letter was the main route. So that's background, probably too much background.

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So World War One, what does General Gorgas need? He knows his medical department is going to expand,

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but he doesn't know how big it's going to get. Ultimately, it's going to grow from 450 regular

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Army doctors to over 30,000 doctors, so.

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95% of of the guys are going to be new. Gorgas knows that, that he's going to have to push out

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information on all sorts of topics, but he doesn't know what those topics are

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yet or what the information is going to be. He does know that he needs it soon.

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So how's he going to get information out? So far I've talked about

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institutionalization and publications and that was a major route for the Army.

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But there were also person to person channels, which in the great Army way

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they institutionalized. Consultants was what they called it there another way the

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Army manages knowledge. For the first time the Army has to grapple with the

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many facets of medicine that have become more and more specialized even in the interval since 1898.

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And it and at the time, the Army has essentially no specialists.

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The Surgeon General's office, for instance, is still about eight officers.

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What they do is they quickly reach into civilian circles to get the technical experts.

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The lead actually comes from the American Expeditionary Force,

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the AEF over in France in the summer of 1917. They pick John Finney,

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JMT Finney out of Baltimore who was the 1st President of the American College of Surgeons as

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their Chief consultant in surgery. They reach grab Harvey Cushing and George Crile

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as another couple of consultants. The lead medical consultant was William Thayer,

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clinical professor out of Hopkins. They end up with 19 senior consultants.

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I'm not going to run all the names past you, but these are the most recognizable.

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Now, a consultant supervised and coordinated professional work, but they also were not an

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inspector in an Army sense. They might catch you out on doing something

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in that's clinically inappropriate but they're they're not there with a

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checklist of of how to do it just right. They're also and they're more interested

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in are you doing the right thing then are you doing it by the book.

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They also become personnel advisors. Who are the good neurosurgeons?

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Well I don't know let's ask Crile he knows.

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And they also I think it makes a big difference in the AEF

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that they are imminent practitioners because they and not inspectors

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because they can more easily, talk to the British and French to get their clinical developments

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than they could if their job was to inspect American facilities.

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In the US, consultants had similar duties. These brothers Mayo were the

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co-chief consultant in surgery. Each one of them ends up as a Brigadier General.

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So it takes a moment to look at some of the nontraditional knowledge in processes. In the past,

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the Army Medical Department had pulled information from its own doctors, those circular letters that

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tell us about your post. They've done literature searches the that the the library did.

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There are certainly friendly contacts between the military and civilian doctors,

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especially once the Medical Reserve Corps established in 1908. As an

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example when the medical department wanted validation that typhoid vaccination was the right thing.

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They assembled a board of reservists, including civilian luminaries like Victor Vaughan, biochemist,

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bacteriologist, and Dean of medicine at Michigan. William Thayer at Hopkins, Simon Flexner,

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a professor of experimental pathology at Penn and director of the Rockefeller Institute.

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Those guys are willing to serve in the Army as very junior officers,

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first lieutenants. But before US belligerence in World War One,

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so between 1914 and early 17. The Army had first permitted and

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then pushed medical observers to Europe to gather both clinical and administrative information.

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And also the army had pumped the civilian doctors that had gone over

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under Red Cross auspices to volunteer in mostly French civilian hospitals.

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Those doctors would also publish articles, and I'll touch on those later.

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Most of the observers are senior men, so they're have credibility in the army.

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The guy in London, for instance, is a full Colonel who would become the first

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surgeon of the American Expeditionary Force. So the Army Medical Department

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is preemptively trying to get information and which is good, it now has to organize it

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and send that back out. I'm not going to underplay getting information from its own doctors

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in World War One. There were certainly inspection tours by those consultants that both

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gathered and disseminated knowledge. There are also medical liaison officers that come to

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the AEF from the British and French. British and French also push medical

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officers over to Washington to work at the Surgeon General's office.

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Gorgas had the medical library which

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does a wonderful job of publishing the Index cat and the the people working nights and weekends and

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get out the index medicus as well, but that is not his main route to

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push information during the war. Part of that was staffing during the the border flap with Mexico,

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which in those days it was Poncho Villa coming from the the South. Nowadays, of course,

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it's Donald Trump going from the north. The surgeon General's office had pulled

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the most active library clerks to work on other projects since that was in night.

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You know, we had troops in Mexico into 1916, by 1917, those guys, and they're mostly guys,

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still haven't returned to the library. The library is increasingly left

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with the old grumpy, infirm clerks. One was nearly blind, which was a

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great qualification for library work. They do get to hire more, but there's serious morale

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problems in the library. The librarian has to write a note to all staff saying knock it off.

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I'm sure things have changed tremendously. They do. They do get to hire some more during the war,

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but they're simply not able to work fast enough. Administratively, the library and museum are

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lumped together under one guy, but the museum's wartime responsibilities start to dominate his time.

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Champ McCulloch spends more time finding histopathology technicians

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than working on the index catalog. He possibly spends more time going

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over to France in in his mind, in support of his responsibilities,

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than either than actually working on the the library.

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A few people were given desks in the library, but they're not working on library projects.

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There's a publications branch that gets started and there's some. So there's some people that

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that work in the library, that don't work for the library, but with more doctors and also the

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specialists, those consultants sitting in the surgeon general's office,

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those are the ones that are tapped to select and organize the important literature, the librarians.

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Are just the the the view of them changes to. They're just clerks that

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that catalog the books. These doctors who have the specialty

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knowledge are the ones that we look to for that specialty knowledge. In the A EF there is no library.

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We did, we didn't duplicate everything and send it to France. So the chief surgeons staff

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and the consultants select and organize the information. So I'm going to spend a lot of time

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on how they get that information out. The peacetime dissemination routes were inadequate.

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I don't think an index of the, sorry, an issue of the index catalog is

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really going to be much used to a doctor in the trenches who's dealing

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with trench foot or shell shock. It's just the wrong sort of

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source of sorted information.

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Now regulations had to be coordinated around the Army, so that's slow.

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Manuals were apparently more technical

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and decentralized how to pieces. They could be very basic. What is the right way to pick up a litter?

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They told you what the right way was. It could be a manual of laboratory methods.

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This is how we do lab to dark field smears.

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If that's an actual thing. A circular letter could be issued across lines of command.

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These would be technical guidance on how to do things, I think.

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A good analogy would be when the Library of Congress changes cataloging methods.

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They published that and they don't tell you how to do it, but they tell you what their standard is,

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and you get to choose whether to adopt it or not. They could also,

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because they cut across command lines, that's important. In the Army, they could,

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so they can spread information laterally instead of just from the

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Surgeon General's office to anything that's directly under his control.

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You can also use them for information, so they publish more morbidity

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and mortality data that way. So that the bulletins are apparently unchanged from before the war.

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It's a publication that the Surgeon General controls. They were very erratic before the war,

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though. They will be what really changes. And knowing the small capacity

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of the medical school, the Army had been starting some

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correspondence courses before the war, but timings wrong. They start them in 1914.

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Nobody has graduated by the time of the war and they get absorbed. So some of the unofficial routes.

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Messrs. Lea and Febiger published eight of

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these medical war manuals in 1917 and 18. I don't know what they charged for it.

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I think the Army ended up buying a bunch of these as textbooks. I don't know how they handled

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royalties for doctors who, you know, government employees who published

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this and then have the Army buy it. These are the topics. Again, I think these fall into the

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textbook category. They're not critically quick or topical, but they're good for things

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that don't change very quickly. You know, ophthalmology is not going to change

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enormously over the course of a year. Some of these are purchased by the

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army and issued as textbooks at the medical officer training camp.

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And the Army organized special schools

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on some of these topics, and that's where these were especially important manuals. #2 is actually

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written by a British officer, one of the liaison officers in Washington.

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I think he was probably asked to give us a quick manual on everything we need to know.

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Independent committees are also doing things that help the war effort.

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I don't know if the Army asked the National Committee for Mental Hygiene

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to publish this, or if Salmon asked them to? Salmon was a member. I don't know if he said, hey,

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here's an important thing, can you guys publish this more widely?

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The government had sent him over to Britain and France to observe shell shock.

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He'd gone over from Britain to France to see up close to the front.

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So this is essentially a government report, but it's published at no cost to the government.

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I think, but I also think that the the committee here and Lea and Febiger shows

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that there is a market for these things.

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This is cutting edge information and this is something that is

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actually brand new during World War One and doctors want it.

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30,000 doctors end up in the army. Some of them are, you know, are going to be seeing shell shock.

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They're going to want to buy it. Civilians may well want it as well.

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Here's the Army writing something in the AMA publishing it for them. According to the Army,

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this was popular with civilian practitioners and it's taken over by

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the Public Health Service after the war. So the knowledge is organized by the Army,

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published by the AM A, and then could perpetuated by elsewhere in the government.

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I think this is a completely independent product, but it's a medical library creating,

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you know, organizing the knowledge, creating bibliography, and then pushing it out.

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This was sent to military bases so their hospitals could have a reference guide.

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I don't think the AML did that. The Crerar are was willing to

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interlibrary loan the the books that they had and they would also make

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photocopies of journal articles at cost, which is pretty big of them. Here's a nice effort to help.

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It's, you know, unlike the National Committee for Mental Hygiene this is not a one off.

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This is a supplement, obviously. October 1918 is not going to

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be enormously useful with the war ending the next month, but you know their information

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technology was just not as quick as up to date or the databases we have now.

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This went through additions and publication or and reprints in 1917 and 18.

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Again there's a market for this sort of thing probably helps

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that Keene was really well known.

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This is a special neurosurgery volume. The contents come from those those big

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brains in the certain general's office. But this is a 360 page literature

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review and you can imagine how frequently this would be useful. I know you have to be a

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neurosurgeon to actually use this, so maybe they could get one to everybody,

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but you can't really update it. And preparing something officially

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doesn't necessarily mean that it actually gets published officially. Again,

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they publish this gets published privately. There's different editions of this

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506 pages about how to shoot X-rays. $4.00 for some editions,

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$5 for others at the time. So I think you know a lot of civilians, physicians

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I've never worked with X-rays before. A GP really wouldn't.

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So there's an interest in the American medicine. Now,

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Gorgas had excellent relations with the medical profession,

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and the AMA quickly began to help the Army. For instance,

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they sent 69,000 letters to doctors, not one guy getting 69,069 thousand--

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69,069 thousand doctors getting a letter each. And it would tell them, Dear Doctor Jones,

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this is how you volunteer for the Army. Wouldn't you like to do that in our time of national need?

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JAMA begins to publish this column. The very first issue after the US

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declaration of war and the Army liked this. The Army really appreciated it.

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The propaganda published in the Journal of the American Medical Medical

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Association and the printing done for the medical department by that journal

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were of great importance and value. Credit is also due to other medical journals and the American

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Medical Editors Association for the use of space and editorials in placing the needs of the medical

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department before the profession. Practically all the leading medical

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societies of the country rendered assistance in this connection.

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But Gorgas doesn't control the AMA or JAMA. It's also not a perfect route to doctors.

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Not every doctor is a member. They're still not. And getting JAMA through the through

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the mail is going to be a trick. Getting it over to France is going to be a trick.

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And also JAMA had never paid

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much attention to the military. In 1916, from 1916 to

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in, in all of 1916, it published

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eight articles on wartime medicine. None of those was a particularly quick turnaround from the events

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it was describing to a publication. By the fourth quarter of 1917, US had been at war for six months,

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and JAMA is publishing 11 articles in that quarter.

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But that's only 5.5% of their articles.

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Now the AMED had excellent relations with the Association of Military Surgeons.

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AMSIS had started in 1893 mostly for National Guard doctors,

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but it had expanded to the to include the Regular Army and the Medical Reserve Corps.

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The journal was run by a retired Army doctor and articles were on military medicine.

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There's also multiple columns of administrative news, administrative changes, how to get things done.

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Moreover, at the time, they were so flush financially that they had recently expanded the number of

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pages and size of pages so they could. They doubled the space available for articles.

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They even sent free copies to every Army hospital. There's actually a reference in the official,

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the Army's official history saying this was an official publication.

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And they're also people that are so useful to the Army their their desks are

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in the Army Medical Library building. But this is a monthly.

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This is not an "as I need it" to be published, and the Army could

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not require doctors to join a private organization to get the information they needed.

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And if you know this also goes out through the mails. AMSIS had had problems for all the

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reservists that have been mobilized to go down to the Mexican border in 1915 and 16.

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Those guys were not necessarily getting their copies of this in the mail and then they knew that

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that was going to be a problem. In the US, when the army moves you from point A to point B,

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and certainly a problem if you go overseas. Now, they do pay more attention to war medicine.

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They had brought people more up to date. 1916 they published 28 articles on World War One,

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which was about 1/4 of their total articles. But these journals have to be independent.

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They cannot be let themselves be taken over by the Army and then try and come back out later.

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So, I hope you can see where this is led. The Army needs a publication and

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need a way to push out information. They have to do it themselves.

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This review of war surgery and medicine is a fortnightly push of

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abstracts and special articles. And they can choose. The Army can choose what goes into

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this for for topicality keeps the doctors abreast of what the army thinks they need.

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And it can also travel in supply channels. Though it's not considered mail,

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it's considered an official publication. That's not to say it's necessarily prompt,

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but it stands a better chance. And ahead articles on things that civilian

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doctors would simply never have seen. It would never, civilian doctors don't see trench foot,

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so they they publish a 10 page article on trench foot in March of 1918. If they also make it available

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later to civilian medical libraries, only $0.10 an issue cheap at the price.

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It ran for about 18 months through volume 2 #6 in June of 1919.

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It slows down from fortnightly to monthly, but it's, you know,

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it is the Army Medical Department's own and owned publications channel.

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Again, I'm sorry this isn't more legible. It's abstracts, translations and reviews

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of literature, reconstruction and reeducation of the disabled soldier.

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So the Army was facing new questions about rehabilitation of the severely

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wounded and also guys who've gotten sick. So they both they first established

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policy spearheaded by a former AMA president and then it starts a rehabilitation bulletin.

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This and it again, it has abstracts, translations, reviews,

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articles on various facets of reconstruction that their their catchall term.

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Including vocational training. This is a publication headed not for publication,

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and that's something I thought only the Air Force could do.

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Now I'm going to talk about what this guy, Major General Merritte Ireland wanted to do. He's surgeon,

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the chief surgeon over in France for the American Expeditionary Force for the key part of the war.

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There's a guy before him, but General Bradley doesn't have,

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is in poor health and doesn't get much done. Ireland has liaison officers

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out to the British and French. They have liaison officers in. He also writes to officers

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saying keep your eyes open, talk to people, listen to people.

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Sent back reports to my office. He had different ways to push information out.

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He used circular letters, for instance. Some of these are administrative,

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some of them are very clinical, he tells hospitals. If you have a pneumonia patient,

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don't evacuate them back to the next hospital up out of the chain of evacuation that kills them.

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He also used the Red Cross to print at

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least one manual and a journal for him. He also published a weekly bulletin.

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I don't know if any copies of this have survived. It would be great if you guys

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could find some. It was 5 inches. It was a 5 by 8 sheet.

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6 to 12 pages included not only data

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on epidemics in the over in France, but the causes and treatment of wounds,

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notes on health conditions back in the states, references and extracts from medical literature,

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charts and drawings. They even said that they wrote it to be interesting.

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I don't know how it was received, but they tried to make it readable. As I mentioned,

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they have consultants staying abreast, professional developments and advising,

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you know, so those guys are the ones who are really managing the the knowledge in there.

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Ireland also sets up a school called the Army Sanitary School. Only a very small percentage

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of doctors would go through, but he did use it to spread information to they sent the

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classes up to the front lines, not literally in the front trenches, but up close.

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They brought in British and French lecturers to the school, so they're using that as a

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means for knowledge exchange. This is published by the published by the Red Cross.

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They, the Red Cross also publishes a second thing, a medical bulletin,

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which was focused on research. Now there's an unusual category of

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information we don't see anymore. Army general hospitals. These are the referral centers,

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not the community hospitals. And because they are seeing the more complex longterm patients,

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they're going to be, the patients are going to be there for months. These hospitals are

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encouraged to have newspapers. These are a mix of humor,

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local news, you know, sports teams, administrative information.

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So for instance, how the Army has changed its discharge policy lately and something

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that would apply to to patients and encouragement for patients.

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TB patients were a particular concern. [dramatic voice] It was planned to control the thought,

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attitude and conversation of patients so far as possible, by means of personal talks and pamphlets,

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and by building up in them some cheerful philosophy of life. Hospital newspapers were active

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morale agents, considerable thought being devoted to suggestive titles as "Ward

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Healer, The Comeback" and "Carry On", and to contents that would be encouraging,

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stimulating and attractive. I think Jeff Resnick would cheerfully

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throttle me if I didn't highlight "Carry On." It was the longest lasting hospital

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newspaper and probably by by virtue of being printed in DC, had articles ghosted for

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the great and the good. You'll even notice that that this official

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publication is paid for by the Red Cross. These are are definitely

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government communication routes. The Army sent out notes to the editors

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saying do not contradict official policy. [dramatic voice] For the information of the patients,

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their relatives and friends. The hospital newspaper should contain some authoritative statements

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furnished by the Bureau of War Risk Insurance and by the Federal Board of Vocational Education,

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which embrace the benefits provided by the government of convincible disabled soldiers and

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sailors after their discharge. --And while I'm looking at

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patient directed literature, health advice is another category. Enlistment data.

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You know, medical screening of recruits had showed how wide STD's were.

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And the progressives were progressive. They wanted to make things better. This is a short booklet on

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how to lead a clean life, part of a multiformat campaign that was unleashed on soldiers.

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You can also see how the various agencies are involved.

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The War Department had set up the CTCA, the Commission on Training Camp Activities.

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They were a bunch of no funs. They didn't like red light districts,

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which is, you know, from the Army's perspective to keep soldiers healthy.

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So okay, so the Army sets up the CTCA. The CTCA then publishes this--

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Once the war is over, the Public Health Service are going to be the guys who are

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keeping the effort going, but while you know, but if you're directing information

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as people in the Army, soldiers, then the Army is probably the best means to get this job done.

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So the Army actually sends this out. Here's another part of that propaganda information campaign.

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They made a movie. It would be great if a copy survived, but apparently none did.

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It was it would have been really, really interesting. Now I mentioned Index Medicus. Index Cat

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Series 2 ran from 1916 and then Series 3 picks up in 1918 and

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I think that reflects some of the the big issues that the medical library is having at the time.

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The medical library certainly contributes to this 260 page summary of

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international literature on military hygiene, medicine, surgery, ophthalmology, ear, nose, ear,

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nose, throat, naval medicine and surgery and related matters. It includes psych that's

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categorized under military medicine, but this is published sometime after one July 1918.

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All I could find out that it was published was in. It was published in fiscal 1918,

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so sometime after the the middle of the year. So it's a a nice thing to do,

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but it's not particularly timely. Those semi official publications continued after the war.

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I think this came out after the war because that's when the AMED had shifted

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focus on keeping them healthy, keeping them alive to reconstructing them.

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Now it's a good thing that lunch is over, because I don't think you really

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want to flip through the 256 figures. But this was 442 pages,

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so it's a it's quite a compendium. Military journals were not the only

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route for knowledge to move around. They certainly used civilian journals.

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Military officers were encouraged to prepare articles for publication

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so it they would inform the the profession,

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not just those in the military, and the Army would then abstract these

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articles to get another feedback loop. This was a supplement to the Army's bulletin

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that stopped in June 1919. This starts in December 1919

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continues into 21.

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I think it was sent to organizations, not to individual doctors.

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Later on, it is supposed to be sent out to every doctor in the regular Army,

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the Guard and the Reserve, and a few civilian libraries and

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individuals and a few journal offices were put on the distribution list.

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It's published not by the library. But by the laboratories and infectious disease division and

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it includes article abstracts, notes on investigations that are going on clinical investigations,

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not anything else and all statistics.

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Hospital capacity, how many beds are full, how communicable diseases were going at that time.

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I think that's why it's coming out of the, the infectious disease division.

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So this is largely clinical. The Army Medical Bulletin starts up

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after the war instead of the review. Initially it's not a regular publication, but as needed,

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just like the prewar bulletin. And it ditches the fortnightly disease and hospital stuff

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because not every doctor needs it, and also if you're coming out irregularly,

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then having that data isn't really, really useful. Later, the Bulletin would become regular

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as the Interwar Army refines its intellectual infrastructure. The consultants cling by

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their toenails after the war, and by 1921 the Army Medical Department had lonely,

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had gone back to generalized hospitals, not really general hospitals.

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There are a couple general hospitals, but only really two.

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They only one or two officers in the Surgeon General's Office are overseeing the specialized

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wards that hospitals have. So in both facilities and personnel,

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the Army Medical Department is really back to its prewar condition. And actually handling those

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specialists is mostly just a personnel matter as far as they see it.

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There's a restructuring of Army regulations after the war from one big book to a lot,

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a lot, a lot of small books. The Army Medical Department had its own

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index to all the regulations that covered it.

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These are. These are an important way to get information out, although I'm not sure they

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were necessarily a timely one. The time to revise these could be quite long. And I'll close with

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a long term knowledge project, the Official History. This was remarkably completed in 1929.

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The original plans for the history were laid by the surgeon, the librarian,

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Colonel Champe McCulloch, and the bulk of the editing work was done

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by somebody sitting in the medical library. Contract surgeon Loy McAfee,

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who I think is one of the profiles in medicine somewhere on your website.

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With my knowledge theme. The post war reorganization split the

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medical museum in the Medical library. They've been together since the 1860s.

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Now the library is paired off with the historians while the museum is put in with the laboratory,

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which was appropriate for an organization that was leaving medical

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curiosities and becoming a pathology collection and Pathology Organization.

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And I'll conclude, The Army Medical Department diversified its ways to gather, organize,

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and disseminate knowledge around World War One. It paid far more attention to

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what other countries were doing, trying to learn from example rather than learn from experience.

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Lacking good existing routes, Gorgas also used a large number of

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unofficial routes to spread knowledge. He created some official routes because

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the unofficial ones were not sufficient. New routes were pioneered and

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new audiences were targeted.

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The medical library played little role in this until after the war.

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I think it's prewar specialization in producing a long cycle publication.

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The index catalog meant that it was simply not flexible enough to handle

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the volume of work or the deadlines. And library clerks also were not

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probably the right people to stay up with the current clinical literature.

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Thanks very much and I look forward to questions.

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[applause]

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Use the light please. Sure.

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[Ken Koyle:] Thank you. So, thank you Doctor Marble I really appreciate your your talk and

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this analysis of the the publications really from the end of the Civil War

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all the way up through World War One. So my question is about what the

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publication that you closed with the the histories of the the Great War.

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How did since this was a a publication primarily of the library,

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how did they gather the the content

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for it they you know how did they get doctors to write the the essays that

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became these remarkable histories?

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[Dr. Marble:] A lot of what they did was pull the

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monthly reports that had been filed during the the war and they actually

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enforced filing monthly reports. During the war, people got in trouble for not doing monthly reports.

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And it's a whether it's a hospital in the USA, hospital in France,

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a regimental surgeon with, you know,

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the 123rd Infantry Regiment in the whatever it was division. They were all supposed to file

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reports and and then and they did. Those were enormously useful.

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They also bring in people that oversaw

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that particular function during the war. The guy overseeing it would

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probably be a regular who was still

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in the army in 19/23/25 and and he would know the things to highlight

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and the things to that that were certainly present in the reports

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but less important. McAfee I think actually writes it the you know I don't.

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I think Lynch and Reed and and all the other senior officers have plenty

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to do as senior officers and they

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work with her to put it together and then she figures out what you

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know what sentence to quote from a report and there's a lot of of-- unquoted quotes.

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So they they take chunks out of reports.

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But they they use the existing reports. They bring in the officers that had overseen something,

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including some of the clinicians who had gone back into civilian practice.

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So Salmon is involved in the Neuropsychiatry Volume,

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Crile is writing parts of the Neurosurgery Volume.

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But then McAfee does most of the writing. I think they're more content

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with her because she is an MD. They wouldn't hire a historian to do it, but they would hire a Doctor

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who was willing to write.

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[Audience:] Thank you for a really interesting

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talk with lots to think about. So the for me at the moment,

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the most interesting question was your point about the

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distribution of information during the Civil War being mostly here's the information, you, the doc,

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should make your judgment based on it, but you it's your judgment that's in charge.

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And then it seems by the end of of the Great War, there's much more of a

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standardized approach to things. What I can't tell because I think I'm just ignorant,

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is whether there were certain turning points in just an emerging consensus

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which then the Army built upon, or whether part of it is a top down kind of thing because they

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had to run a system of hospitals or whether there's an interplay, that's a huge question

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but I think you have at least the start of an answer?

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[Dr. Marble:] Yeah, I'll give some answer and I will

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also say that I it is a big thing and I don't know all of it.

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I think you have the beginnings of medicine becoming a science in that period

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and there is a clear answer on what is the best thing to do.

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You also have a lot more specialization in medicine,

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so not anything like what we've got

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today with boards and fellowships and people that only do such and such,

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either because it's more lucrative or because that's what they've specialized in.

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But you know, there is a board of Ophthalmology, there is this that is the only board established.

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It's established in 1914. But there are guys that have said I do eyes,

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I don't do medicine, I do eyes. There are people that say, you know,

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they're not organizers aboard yet, but there are neurosurgeons and you know, I don't do medicine,

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I don't do surgery, I do neurosurgery. But in the bigger picture,

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going back out to things like sanitation, we've gone from something

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that that Von Shtoyben knew. In the Revolutionary War, which is if you,

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you will have less disease in your troops if you pay that more attention to hygiene.

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He knew this. He didn't know why. After 1898, you've got a lot of science

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as to why don't poop where you drink. You're going to get dysentery, you're going to get typhoid,

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and a lot of your people are going to die. And I think they're also haunted

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by that the the medical department as an organization is haunted by

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its professional failings in 1898, for which they get hammered in the

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press and they are desperate to avoid another hammering in the press.

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They also, you know, even in something they get hammered in the press for in in World

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War One is childhood diseases. It's a much more rural population.

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In the US in 1917 and you bring together

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millions of young men a lot of them haven't been exposed to scarlet fever.

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There is a big measles and scarlet and another scarlet fever epidemic

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in the army and hundreds of deaths. Hundreds as opposed to millions of

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men in the army but hundreds is bad enough and they they take the army

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takes heat for that they but they have some science to to go on saying.

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I told you the surgeon general testifies to Congress saying, I told the the the army we needed to

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have more square footage per man in the barracks and better ventilation,

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or we would have epidemics of communicable disease.

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And they said we need to win the war. This does not win the surgeon General

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friends for testifying in front of Congress that his bosses had overruled him.

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But he has science to go on and and

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exactly which piece of science or which piece of this whole topic, there's, you know,

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there's a lot of different answers to that, but they, they had a lot more science to go on from,

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you know, the antiseptic surgery from 67.

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They had a lot of hygiene data to go on. And they've also got doctors that

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are much more specialized and know what to what the right answer is. But they are also, yes,

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they are more prescriptive. And I think it comes back to if I know what the right answer is,

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I'm going to tell you what it is. [Audience:] That's what's interesting about the

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way you framed the question though is that it's in both an in and and out flow.

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And so they're gathering the information which makes the science,

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maybe not in the sense of scientific law, but also partly about

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local conditions in this war, but at the same time they have to run

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a system and so it's very interesting to see it move in the direction of

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you know here you go make your own decision to this is the proper way to.

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[Dr. Marble:] And I think there may also have been a changed expectation in the

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public and if I'm a family, you know if if I have lent the

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the government my son in 1862, I want them to take the best

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possible care for of him, but I don't know what that is. And I know that nobody is

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certain what that is. In 1917 there's a whole lot more certainty about what the right care is,

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and if the Army doesn't do that, then that great big hammer of public opinion is going

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to come down on their head.

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--Thank you.

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I scared everybody else off?

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Well, thanks very much.

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[applause]

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[graphic and program end]
