UNIVERSITY Pirrressceret | WASHINGTON (Zgh SCHOOL OF MEDICINE SAINT LOUIS THE EDWARD MALLINCKRODT DEPARTMENT OF PHARMACOLOGY EUCLID AVENUE AND KINGSHIGHWAY February 10, 1958 Dr. Joshua Lederberg Department of Medical Genetics Genetics Building University of Wisconsin Madison 6, Wisconsin Dear Josh, Here are the extracts and a sample of novobiocin. I am embarrassed about the time that has crept by since I was in Madison. I made the first extract right after Christmas but worked it up in a relaxed fashion. When it turned out ‘to be a dud, I did the next one more hastily. I am enclosing four tubes, each dried from 5 ml. of solution. The source and content of acetylamino Sugar nucleotide is marked on each tube. Each tube represents the extract from cells obtained from 500 ml. of culture (about 1.3 Gm packed wet weight). For future reference, I have previously removed a duplicate 5 ml. from each tube I am sending to you. However, you can have these samples whenever you need them, or I can make more. I thoroughly enjoyed the afternoon with you. The possibility of getting at the compounds in the "other" sequence (s¥ through the mutant approach intrigues me. Two things we didn't discuss occurred to me later; It is possible that the small amount of residual dye from the crystal violet extracts will be bacteriostatic. This dye separates well from some of the interesting compounds on electrophoresis. I could easily prepare from the extracts whenever desirable electrophoretic strips (1/2" wide?, 1"9, 2"?) which could be overlaid with agar. This latter technique might be interesting in any case. Similarly, these extracts have all been through a cold TCA precipitation which might ’ destroy labile compounds. The extracts can also be prepared with boiling water at neutral pH, which might be less harmful. Thanks very much for the cultures. They all arrived safely. I assume the TLB auxotroph is a théonine, leucine, 7LB biotin auxtroph, Neither I nor Dave Hogness understand the / terminology DaP-prototroph. Does this refer to a primary isolate as contrasted to a DaP-auxotroph obtained in the DAP laboratory? So far I have done nothing except transfer the cultures. I think I can get to them next week, so I may have some more news Shortly. Guy Barry sent me a culture of Ko351l+0, the coliminic acid producing strain, so I don't need to trouble you for it any more, Dr. Joshua Lederberg February 10, 1958 Page 2 Thanks also for Kandler's paper. It does not change my feelings about $, aureus. Two major criticisms are: 1. The method of preparation of walls in NaQH would undoubtedly destroy walls of cells like §. aureus (@f Mitchell and Moyle). I can't be- sure without seeing the paper in press that these are walls. 2. The occurrence of a normal amount of DAP in hydrlysates of whole cells might only indicate the presence of DAP precuSors, such as we might find in the organisms you sent us. Ina more general way, however, possibly the point of gnterruption Oe Coit wall synthesis is not exactly the same in - probus and §, aureus. In fact the data do indicate that the "walls" of the "insteble" form have lost some accessory structure, as contrasted to the basic structure. They may be very incomplete "walls", and again inhibition of some wall "polymerase" might be implicated. However, as T said, the idea that a uridine nucleotide transglycosidase is specifically inhibited is only one interesting hypothesis, and possibly some general property of the membrane is interfered with by penicillin having a Slightly different effectg# in the two organisms. Novobiocin inhibits at a point different frcm penicillin. It seems to be closer to crystal violet, and we should know exactly in about a week. I'm delighted to hear you'll be coming in May. Sincerely, JLSt:ab