December 2, 1955

Dr Henry S. Kaplan
Department of Radiology
Stanford Medical School

San Francisco 15, California

Dear Henrys

I've communicated with Leonard Herzenberg and found him extremely
intersted in the possibility of am instructorship in genetics, although
as Harry Eagle had warned me he has been offered a very attractive position
in the NIH itself (in an another unit) and is in sanewhat of a dilemma. But
I suspect that he will accept my offer if it 1s backed up by an reasonable
accomodation in salary and especially in facilities,

The latter is what I want to ask you about. I don't doubt thet, at a fair
cost, the quarters vacated by Avram Goldtsein in the Anatemy~ Pharmacology
building could be properly converted and eqhipped. But the disadvantages
are equally obvious, the same I had balked at for my own laboratory, the
hindrances to effective contact with the other geneticists and cell biologists,
and the wastefulness of duplication of equipment.

Sf It's a poor way to begin to repay you for your innumerable kindnesses
already offered, but I wonder if you wouldn't foresee some advantage to your~
self in accomodating "histogenetics' during the next few years ywithin your
own space in Radiology == assuming this would be.feasible -— and more par-
ticularly Herzenberg's own tissue culture program. Apart from the more obvious
advanteces, this would carry the overt penalty of my more frequent visitation
on my own part. The original inspiration to ask you about this came fron
your own expression of interest in Herzenberg, and I would have no ohjection
to any administrative arrangements such as joint appointment, if any, that
you felt might appropriately accompany the domiciliary ones, Both from your
point of view, his and ours the scheme seems to me so plausible that I am sure
the chief limitation on 1t will be whether the space is available. If you are
really flush (plein) I would raise the same proposition for Gus Nossal (who
will be visiting 195%61 to continue ovr work on antibody~fermation by isolated
cells). I would have in mind reserving the residue at Anatomy for use as a
resebve animal youse, and for chronic and messier experiments and moving our
more refined experimental work as far as possible into the medical center.

Len is coming out to Stanford Febr. 9-12 for final arranzenents, and this
would be the time to séttle the details. I would be delighted meanwhile to
kearn whether you were sympathetic to the proposal in principle, and in gub-
stance to the point where he gould look forward to having at least the core
of his program in wi gh you. “he Anatany space furnishes a buffer so that
as little as 400: ft* together with sens expectation of a share in generel
facilities might be well worth considering as a basis of discussion, (But I
an making my own guess on his space needs: don't hold hin to it.)