FEDERAL SECURITY AGENCY PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE VADCDOICXDOICAK OR, IN REPLYING, ADDRESS THE ‘UBLIC HEALTH SERVICE REFER TO: Tuberculosis Research Laboratory, 411 East 69th St., New York 21, N. Y¥. April 9, 1952. Dr. Joshua Lederberg, Department of Genetics, The University of Wisconsin, College of Agriculture, Madison 6, Wisconsin. Dear Joshua: It seems that not only our last letters but also our thoughts have crossed. You say that thee is little doubt that the Kl and Klt mutants were derived from the W strain. Yet they carry a phage which lyses W-1177 whereas the wild-type W does not. Is that correct? The history of the Kit - strains is the following: In Sept. 1950, markers were put on the Kit strains, yielding Klt-trl, Klt-p, and Kit~h2. These 3 strains were crossed with W-677 and 58-161. In these crossing experiments the strains taken from a 20 h NY culture (YE + NZ medium) were grown together for 4 hrs. at 37° in NY (0.5 ml of each —» total of 5.0 ml), before plating 0.1 ml of the unwashed suspension on minimal agar (incubated at 37°). Appreciable numbers of colonies appeared on the plates Kit-h2 x W-677, Kit-h2 x 58-161, end Kit-p x 58-161. Also in crosses among the Kit strains, appreciable numbers appeared on Klt-trl x Kit-h2 and Klt-p x Klt-h2. On the control plates there were either 0 or 1 colonies. However, these colonies were not tested further to see whether or not they really were prototrophs. At a later stage (Jan.-July 1951) various other Klt derivatives were crossed with the two indicator strains, but no recombinants were obtained in any of these experiments. I have no record of recombination experiments with Klt~h2 and Klt-p derivatives (e.g., Klt-h2-pl, etc.) These would be the most likely ones to recombine. I am sending you the parent strains Klt-h2 and Klt-p. So far I have two pant” mutants in W-677, but unfortunately one is blocked in the synthesis of - -alanine, the other in the synthesis of pantoate. Tough luck! There was one sentence in your letter that wasn't clear to me. "These (Klt- derivatives) gave very sporadic results with K-12 testers, and altogether only a very few prototrophs were obtained so that I cannot place too much emphasis on my negative results." What do you mean by Dr. Joshua Lederberg April 9, 1952. in Me frst plo * negative results? Do you think that there was recombination? Best regards, also to Esther, (ems Werner K. Maas WKM/h1 LS. Nauk, fs Me UY 1/17 shes, lal jeoot Arresed - [As K W- 1426 )