WALTER REED ARMY INSTITUTE OF RESEARCH Lave. WALTER REED ARMY MEDICAL CENTER WASHINGTON 12, D.C. —_— November 19, 1959 Dear Joshua, Thank you very much for your letter. I have just recenkly seen the abstract by Hirota in "Genetics", We have not had any positive results with infective transfer, with a coli strain or witn a Salmonella strain, We have started some mouse virulence studies with S. typhosa hybrids (an artif- icial situation at best). There seems to be some loss of virulence by the 'diploid' type, however, this may be due to the slower growth rate exhibited by this form. Actually, I should prefer to examine mouse virulence in the case of 5. typhimurium. Esther mentioned that she had developed some stocks of TM-9 having a number of selective markers, If available, I would apprec- iate a transfer of a strain of this kind to try the isolation of avirulent hybrids from E. coli Hfr x S. typhimurium; virulent hybrids from the reverse cros s eventually I hope. ~~ I am unable to answer the question concerning derivation from Hfril or Hfrc, but it would be very helpful if it could be established sone way whether it was either or neitaer, I am enclosin» an abstract for comnent (particularly as regards the last sent-~- ence) which we intend to submit for the S&B meeting in Philadelphia. Best regards, Sincerely yours, ( P. S. I heard from Seymonr thru a friend visiting at Brown that he is 'superbly married',