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Columbia University in the City of New York | New York, N.Y. 10027

DEPARTMENT OF SOCIOLOGY Fayerweather Hall

23 March 1978

Dr. Joshua Lederberg

Department of Genetics

Stanford University Medical School
Stanford, CA 94305

Dear Josh,

A pity that we didn't get a chance to talk when you were last
in but M conveyed how busy they were keeping you -- and happily
-- that you were enjoying it.

Your packet of materials was much appreciated. Krebs always
has a nose for the sorts of things I'm interested in -- though
I wish he hadn't embellished this piece with the Kuhnian "normal
and revolutionary science" paradernalia. I have been trying to
track down the two items edited by W. R. Klemm noted on the
first page of the Fox reprint. Nothing by Klemm exists under the
titles noted -- either as books or serials. Have you any clues
as to where to look further?

I am also tracking down a book by Fritz London on Supercon-
ductivity in which he is alleged to comment both on the long
delay between the discovery of the phenomenon by Kammerlingh Onnes
and the first experiments showing it by someone named Meisner (?)
and on the fact that the Meisner experiment could have been
done 15 years before.

Perhaps the time has come to inventory the cases we have on
hand of alleged post matures. I will dq so when I dig out from
under current debris.

The Herriott letter is a remarkable document. Not only is
his analysis of the Stent blindspot interesting and possibly
correct but his vivid description of the events that day at
CSH contained a bombshell for me. You never told me that Tatum
was not present for your paper. The picture that Herriott
paints is one of such innocence (the questions and the clipboard
are what did it) and courage (truly a lion's den that was)..
Not exactly the best atmosphere for encouraging the young --
and I'm not sure it was even so good for getting at the truth.
Would it do any good to encourage Herriott to write up his
memories of this? I would be glad to drop him a note if you
think it worthwhile.
Dr. Joshua Lederberg -2- 23 March 1978

The evening with Peter Medawar was a spectacular. He is
as good in person as on paper (often not the case) and Jean
(Lady M -- I somehow can't manage the latter) is a person of
sensibility and courage. He has considerable trouble getting
around and she somehow manages to smooth his way unobtrusively
and even with humor. At any rate, he was greatly pleased by
the Rockefeller decision. You might want to take a look at
his newest MS (Advice to a Young Scientist) when it appears.
He's just handed it over to his publisher - part of the Sloan
series Bob was involved in. Perhaps we can arrange a repeat
performance when you are here and when they come for a Sloan
meeting.

Love to M,

Sincerely,

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Associate Professor

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