Columbia Gniversity inthe City of HewPork (NEW YORK 27, N. Y.] DEPARTMENT OF ZOOLOGY October 13, 1952 Dr. Joshua Lederberg Devartment of Genetics The University of Wisconsin Madison 6, Wisconsin Dear Josh, I guess, Josh, I'm just not as intellectual as Norm. We obviously made a bad choice of a word but, under the circumstances, what Norm suggests is Silly. Since "prototrophic" will still be used, despite his spleeny I, too, do not propose to engage jn an MGB volemic. I'm glad you are hapvy Tom is with you and hope you both have a very productive yesr. Although Phyllis is no Tom, she does resemble Lil in many good wayse I'm pleased to have her with me and she is taking hold fast. Lil and Stan sre now at Chalk River and the place strikes them as o-k. Alaska, for Betty and me, was terrific. We had a good time visiting Hez and Marge Shaw in Fairbanks. I think Hez's reaction against the plece stems from his being bored stiff at the airbase. Hez is a true intellectual while, as I said before, I'ma physical type. And it is true the interior is not as lovely as the seacoast. wrat really bowled me over wes the fishing --- thirty-six-inch salmon for the taking. Betty wes stunned by the birds, many of which come from Africa and Asia to breed in the summer. The large mammals were also ubiquitous (2s were mosaui- toes) and the mountsins, tundra, forests, rivers, and seacoest, glorious. wWe ‘now just where we're going to homestead when I throw in the towel. We sold our car up there, came by boat along the inland vassage- way to Seattle and flew home. Temperatures un there were ca 55° to 70° night and day---a delight. when we got back to New York, we went into solution. Just starting to cool off again. Best to Esther and Tom. Sincerely, Francis J. Ryan FJR: kk