THE BRONX HOSPITAL FULTON AVENUE ar 169TH STREET NEW YORK 56, NEW YORK LUpLow 8-7000 Bebruary 3, 1950 Dr. Joshua Lederberg Dept. of Genetics University of Wisconsin Madison 6, Wisc. Dear Doctor Lederberg: Under separate cover, I am sending you 7 more cultures as possible sow ces for variants. We have tried to select them as suggested by you. How- — ver, as I told you before, our restricted facilities leave us no time to check on these cultures. They are just pickings from well separated colo- nies from primary stool plates. One of them probably belongs into the Pro- teus group - it started " swarming". Please let me know, whether you want more cultures of this kind. fe gow Cte of f23, /* Tt can only say, that we excluded the presence of a 'phage as well as we knew how. Even if the phenomanon we observed would be initiated by a ' Dy 'phage, it would be of great interest - perhaps even more than any expla- nation by a soluble principle. Imagine a phage forcing a culture to ac- cept a constant biological property from a "donor" via a ‘phage and at the same time abandoning the corresponding character it had carried hitherto] However, in view of the difficulties we entountered in duplicating the experiments, and also in view of the fact, that even in the positive ex- periments only a fraction of the offspring showed transformation, I have difficulties in visualizing such a possibility. Your are entirely correct in stating that the problem is partly one of definition. If a 'phage becomes just a roving gem, theh, of course, you have me. But then I shal have my vengeance: I shall prepare a beautiful paper for next year's Review of Microbiology jast by copying your and exchanging each time }eammee the word genefor 'phage and vice versa. After that, we are going to submit the case to the international congress for semantics - or, if you prefer, to the U.S.Senate - for arbitration. Sincerely . AT. Weed A.J Weil AFFILIATED WITH FEDERATION OF JEWISH PHILANTHROVIES OF NEW YORE