To: (Seymour Cohen) polyamin@capecom — _ / 0 Canit tf Af Kesel. A Fcc: /jm/BIOG, /jm/NLM M Subject: Chargaff memoir Weete itv ' Reply-to: lederberg @ mail.rockefeller.edu Mon Nov 18 11:39:25 EST 2002 Dear Seymour Thanks to you and Barbee for that vignette, which I enjoyed reading. You have a specially well-informed vantage point. I’m equally interested in Seymour Cohen’s vision of the Dawn of DNA as gene: can you enlighten me, how did you come to hear of the Avery lab work, and what was your initial reaction? Did you hear any rumor during your earlier stint at RIMR? --- back to Chargaff --- On page 2, you have "waltzing Vienna"; next page it is "nagging, malevolent and immobile", compared to Berlin. P. 1, first paragraph, Chargaff hears of Avery in 1944. The paper appeared in JEM on Feb. 1, 1944 (and the journal was promptly available at P&S). Do you have any idea just when Chargaff did first hear about it? The work was fairly common currency at Columbia - Morningside Heights -- a/c Alfred Mirsky’s frequent visits to Pollister. Do you find any comment in his archives. ’43-’45? Here’s a personal tidbit: Chargaff was one of my biochem instructors when I was a medical student at P&S. My recollections of that time are dim, and conflated with his more vehement appearances later. [disdain for paper chromatography; insistence on "pentose"!-nucleic acids pending isolation and (I presume mixed melting points on the sugars).]. ‘I did find this somewhat enigmatic diary note: April 15, 1945 “Discussion with Dr. Chargaff on the theoretical basis for the identical mobilities of proteins and coated particles. While Bull is not too clear, neither am I. We had taken it for granted that there was adequate physical theoretical foundation for that observation. The units of mobility contain no mass or mole term: cm‘2/volt-sees. Dimensionally, this is the same as Q/m.t. That may be a viscosity term. " ["Bull" is Physical Biochemistry textbook]. Josh Reply-to: lederberg @ mail.rockefeller.edu Prof. Joshua Lederberg Raymond and Beverly Sackler Foundation Scholar Suite 400 (Founders Hall) The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10021-6399 phone: 212: 327-7809 fax: 212: 327-8651 i ‘[8-}#