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			<p begin="00:00:00.027" end="00:00:03,767" style="1">[silence]</p>
			<p begin="00:00:16.903" end="00:00:21,141" style="1">[music]</p>
			<p begin="00:00:46.843" end="00:00:50,980" style="1">I first talked about AIDS in May of 1983</p>
			<p begin="00:00:51.665" end="00:00:55,085" style="1">in conjunction with Bob [?],a former resident here at the clinic.</p>
			<p begin="00:00:55.620" end="00:00:58,420" style="1">At that time, I think we boththought that this was a splash in a pan,</p>
			<p begin="00:00:58.500" end="00:01:04,060" style="1">and it was something that was goingto go away as soon as medical science got</p>
			<p begin="00:01:04.140" end="00:01:08,940" style="1">a handle on etiologyand began developing some therapy.</p>
			<p begin="00:01:09.407" end="00:01:10,780" style="1">Well, that hasn&apos;t been the case.</p>
			<p begin="00:01:10.860" end="00:01:12,960" style="1">This is the second updateI&apos;ve given on AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:01:16.200" end="00:01:19,740" style="1">The whole dilemma continues,and the beat goes on.</p>
			<p begin="00:01:20.640" end="00:01:23,680" style="1">Most of you are well awareof the medical emergency</p>
			<p begin="00:01:23.760" end="00:01:26,380" style="1">that AIDS has created in this country,and not only in this country,</p>
			<p begin="00:01:26.460" end="00:01:30,300" style="1">throughout the world,and it indeed is a pandemic.</p>
			<p begin="00:01:31.440" end="00:01:33,760" style="1">In fact, it is the first pandemic</p>
			<p begin="00:01:33.840" end="00:01:36,600" style="1">that has beena sexually transmitted disease.</p>
			<p begin="00:01:37.860" end="00:01:40,740" style="1">It doesn&apos;t come near the statistics,of course,</p>
			<p begin="00:01:41.460" end="00:01:44,020" style="1">from the plagues of the 14th century,</p>
			<p begin="00:01:44.100" end="00:01:48,660" style="1">and of course,the influenza epidemic in 1917, 1918.</p>
			<p begin="00:01:49.620" end="00:01:51,100" style="1">I think it&apos;s off to a good start,</p>
			<p begin="00:01:51.180" end="00:01:53,880" style="1">and I think it&apos;s gotmedical science very concerned.</p>
			<p begin="00:01:54.480" end="00:01:57,160" style="1">In fact, it has the entire governmentof many countries</p>
			<p begin="00:01:57.240" end="00:01:59,280" style="1">where AIDS has been reportedvery concerned.</p>
			<p begin="00:02:00.350" end="00:02:02,080" style="1">By way of an introduction, I just want</p>
			<p begin="00:02:02.160" end="00:02:05,340" style="1">to give you a little chronologyas to what&apos;s happened thus far.</p>
			<p begin="00:02:06.240" end="00:02:09,900" style="1">The first cases of AIDSwere really described in 1979.</p>
			<p begin="00:02:15.960" end="00:02:20,320" style="1">This was because there weresome peculiar malady</p>
			<p begin="00:02:20.400" end="00:02:22,900" style="1">that was occurringin a specific population</p>
			<p begin="00:02:22.980" end="00:02:27,060" style="1">of patients in large urban areason the West Coast in New York City.</p>
			<p begin="00:02:29.100" end="00:02:31,600" style="1">The intuitiveness ofsome of these public health investigators,</p>
			<p begin="00:02:31.680" end="00:02:34,780" style="1">namely Michael Gottliebon the West Coast and Friedman-Kien</p>
			<p begin="00:02:34.860" end="00:02:40,000" style="1">on the East Coast, noted that there weresome common denominators with respect to</p>
			<p begin="00:02:40.080" end="00:02:45,660" style="1">the syndrome complex that they were seeingin young and middle-aged homosexual males</p>
			<p begin="00:02:47.100" end="00:02:49,960" style="1">with an arrayof opportunistic infections</p>
			<p begin="00:02:50.040" end="00:02:55,180" style="1">and some strange malignant diseasessuch as Kaposi&apos;s sarcoma,</p>
			<p begin="00:02:55.260" end="00:02:58,320" style="1">which is not too terribly common,especially in that age group.</p>
			<p begin="00:03:01.500" end="00:03:05,640" style="1">They decided that this was somethingthat was unique to this population.</p>
			<p begin="00:03:06.540" end="00:03:09,340" style="1">Again, CDC became bonafidely interested in it</p>
			<p begin="00:03:09.420" end="00:03:13,780" style="1">in early 1981 and begannoting some of the common denominators</p>
			<p begin="00:03:13.860" end="00:03:18,280" style="1">and finally came upwith a definition in June of 1981.</p>
			<p begin="00:03:18.360" end="00:03:20,820" style="1">They actually beganregistering cases at that time.</p>
			<p begin="00:03:22.500" end="00:03:23,620" style="1">By that time,there was about</p>
			<p begin="00:03:23.700" end="00:03:27,240" style="1">300 or 400 cases of AIDS,many of whom had died.</p>
			<p begin="00:03:28.020" end="00:03:32,860" style="1">Again, the peculiar high-riskgroups such as homosexuals,</p>
			<p begin="00:03:32.940" end="00:03:35,700" style="1">bisexuals, and the IV drug users.</p>
			<p begin="00:03:37.980" end="00:03:40,120" style="1">When CDC finally got a handle on this,</p>
			<p begin="00:03:40.200" end="00:03:44,500" style="1">they began recognizing, and reports begancoming in from other major urban areas</p>
			<p begin="00:03:44.580" end="00:03:48,540" style="1">throughout the country,Houston, Miami, and Chicago primarily.</p>
			<p begin="00:03:49.238" end="00:03:51,040" style="1">We had the East Coast and the West Coast,</p>
			<p begin="00:03:51.120" end="00:03:54,660" style="1">and again, the clinical syndromewas very common.</p>
			<p begin="00:03:55.320" end="00:03:58,660" style="1">The individuals that seemed to be at risk</p>
			<p begin="00:03:58.740" end="00:04:01,680" style="1">for the syndrome,again seemed to be common.</p>
			<p begin="00:04:04.020" end="00:04:06,220" style="1">CDC began collecting data.</p>
			<p begin="00:04:06.300" end="00:04:08,500" style="1">During this period of time,they began noting also</p>
			<p begin="00:04:08.580" end="00:04:11,580" style="1">that this had a terrible mortality rateassociated with it.</p>
			<p begin="00:04:12.300" end="00:04:18,280" style="1">During 1982, Bob Gallo, Max Essex,and a few other notable virologists</p>
			<p begin="00:04:18.360" end="00:04:20,560" style="1">were workingon the possible etiology of this.</p>
			<p begin="00:04:20.640" end="00:04:24,760" style="1">Initially, it was thought thatthis was all related to immune burnout.</p>
			<p begin="00:04:24.840" end="00:04:28,180" style="1">These patients hadsuch a heavy antigen load</p>
			<p begin="00:04:28.260" end="00:04:30,160" style="1">that their immune system just simply burned</p>
			<p begin="00:04:30.240" end="00:04:33,880" style="1">out, and ie, they developedthe immune deficiency syndrome</p>
			<p begin="00:04:33.960" end="00:04:38,260" style="1">and were so predisposedfor the array of opportunistic infections,</p>
			<p begin="00:04:38.340" end="00:04:41,640" style="1">which were not treatable when one hastheir immune system decimated.</p>
			<p begin="00:04:43.380" end="00:04:47,080" style="1">Much of the work of Bob Galloon other types of viral agents</p>
			<p begin="00:04:47.160" end="00:04:49,420" style="1">and in conjunctionwith other people, namely in</p>
			<p begin="00:04:49.500" end="00:04:52,120" style="1">Japan, and again, up at Harvard,the work of Max Essex,</p>
			<p begin="00:04:52.200" end="00:04:57,640" style="1">realized that there were some similaritiesbetween some viral agents</p>
			<p begin="00:04:57.720" end="00:05:00,040" style="1">that could producean immune deficiency syndrome</p>
			<p begin="00:05:00.120" end="00:05:03,060" style="1">and the patientsthat were presenting with AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:05:05.580" end="00:05:08,740" style="1">Because there wasan assay available for picking up</p>
			<p begin="00:05:08.820" end="00:05:11,560" style="1">reverse transcriptase,they were very suspicious.</p>
			<p begin="00:05:11.640" end="00:05:14,346" style="1">First of all, they were very suspiciousof it being a retrovirus</p>
			<p begin="00:05:14.426" end="00:05:16,120" style="1">because of the analogous features</p>
			<p begin="00:05:16.200" end="00:05:19,200" style="1">to other syndromesthat retroviruses caused.</p>
			<p begin="00:05:20.760" end="00:05:23,980" style="1">Indeed, they did pick upevidence of these patients</p>
			<p begin="00:05:24.060" end="00:05:26,620" style="1">having reverse transcriptase,and that meant, of course,</p>
			<p begin="00:05:26.700" end="00:05:28,800" style="1">that they were infectedwith the retrovirus.</p>
			<p begin="00:05:29.400" end="00:05:33,160" style="1">Retroviruses are pretty ubiquitous,but only the exogenous viruses.</p>
			<p begin="00:05:33.240" end="00:05:36,480" style="1">The exogenous retroviruses caused problemsand caused disease.</p>
			<p begin="00:05:37.740" end="00:05:39,700" style="1">At that time, they finally recognized</p>
			<p begin="00:05:39.780" end="00:05:42,520" style="1">and realized that this wasa filterable agent, number one</p>
			<p begin="00:05:42.600" end="00:05:44,997" style="1">because people were getting itthrough blood and blood products.</p>
			<p begin="00:05:45.187" end="00:05:48,060" style="1">Number two,it looked like it was a viral agent.</p>
			<p begin="00:05:48.251" end="00:05:50,980" style="1">Number three, it lookedlike there was enough evidence to pursue</p>
			<p begin="00:05:51.060" end="00:05:55,620" style="1">the area of investigating for a retrovirusas being the cause of the disease.</p>
			<p begin="00:05:56.580" end="00:06:00,640" style="1">In 1983, Dr. Bob Galloand his group at NIH</p>
			<p begin="00:06:00.720" end="00:06:04,300" style="1">and also, Luc Montagnierover at the Pasteur Institute in France,</p>
			<p begin="00:06:04.380" end="00:06:07,180" style="1">in Paris, isolated the virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:06:07.260" end="00:06:08,860" style="1">Now, that&apos;s just the first step,</p>
			<p begin="00:06:08.940" end="00:06:12,280" style="1">isolating the virus, identifying the virus,but it was very, very difficult</p>
			<p begin="00:06:12.360" end="00:06:16,980" style="1">to determine whether this virus wasdifferent than HTLV-1 or HTLV-3.</p>
			<p begin="00:06:17.820" end="00:06:22,600" style="1">By the way, you&apos;re going to hear me talkabout HTLV-3, HIV, and the AIDS virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:06:22.680" end="00:06:23,820" style="1">It&apos;s all synonymous.</p>
			<p begin="00:06:26.100" end="00:06:27,280" style="1">Please keep that in mind.</p>
			<p begin="00:06:27.360" end="00:06:29,020" style="1">They&apos;re synonyms.</p>
			<p begin="00:06:29.100" end="00:06:30,940" style="1">What we&apos;re talking aboutis the AIDS virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:06:31.020" end="00:06:35,800" style="1">I like to use the term HTLV-3because of the HTLV-1, the HTLV-2,</p>
			<p begin="00:06:35.880" end="00:06:37,980" style="1">which we&apos;re goingto be talking about more tomorrow.</p>
			<p begin="00:06:40.140" end="00:06:42,280" style="1">In 1983, the virus</p>
			<p begin="00:06:42.360" end="00:06:45,580" style="1">was finally isolated in Franceand as well in this country.</p>
			<p begin="00:06:45.660" end="00:06:48,940" style="1">Then we got to the nitty gritty workof trying to isolate the virus</p>
			<p begin="00:06:49.020" end="00:06:52,840" style="1">and culture the virus to the pointwhere there was enough viral proteins</p>
			<p begin="00:06:52.920" end="00:06:57,280" style="1">to make some dependable test, that is,extracting some antigenic material</p>
			<p begin="00:06:57.360" end="00:07:02,400" style="1">so that we could look for antibodiesin a serum of patients who were infected.</p>
			<p begin="00:07:02.796" end="00:07:05,110" style="1">This took a considerably longerperiod of time</p>
			<p begin="00:07:05.190" end="00:07:06,661" style="1">than it did to isolate the virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:07:07.260" end="00:07:11,020" style="1">Finally, in November of 1984, Mike Popovic,</p>
			<p begin="00:07:11.100" end="00:07:15,400" style="1">who was working with Bob Galloin his laboratory, finally came up</p>
			<p begin="00:07:15.480" end="00:07:21,280" style="1">with a lymphocyte culture line,which the virus did not destroy.</p>
			<p begin="00:07:21.360" end="00:07:27,340" style="1">In other words, the difficulty with HTLV-3is that when an infected lymphocytes,</p>
			<p begin="00:07:27.420" end="00:07:28,720" style="1">it destroys the lymphocytes.</p>
			<p begin="00:07:28.800" end="00:07:32,260" style="1">Its lympholitic,as opposed to HTLV-1 and HTLV-2,</p>
			<p begin="00:07:32.340" end="00:07:36,340" style="1">which causes the cells to proliferateand creates a proliferative disease,</p>
			<p begin="00:07:36.420" end="00:07:38,040" style="1">ie, leukemia.</p>
			<p begin="00:07:39.120" end="00:07:43,720" style="1">The problem was a major onebut was finally overcome in Dr.</p>
			<p begin="00:07:43.800" end="00:07:44,969" style="1">Gallo&apos;s laboratory.</p>
			<p begin="00:07:45.043" end="00:07:46,120" style="1">At that time,</p>
			<p begin="00:07:46.200" end="00:07:51,580" style="1">we were able to grow the virus in culturewith this unique cell line,</p>
			<p begin="00:07:51.660" end="00:07:55,120" style="1">the H9 cell line,and get enough viral material</p>
			<p begin="00:07:55.200" end="00:07:59,560" style="1">so that we could look atand concentrate the proteins of the virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:07:59.640" end="00:08:02,800" style="1">Then, of course, by additional techniques,</p>
			<p begin="00:08:02.880" end="00:08:07,720" style="1">use that protein as antigenic materialand then run it against the serum</p>
			<p begin="00:08:07.800" end="00:08:10,420" style="1">of patients who had the virusor were exposed to the virus</p>
			<p begin="00:08:10.500" end="00:08:16,240" style="1">or were infected for detectionof significant titers against the virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:08:16.320" end="00:08:18,100" style="1">This is how this all happened.</p>
			<p begin="00:08:18.180" end="00:08:21,760" style="1">As soon as we were able togrow the virus and immortalize</p>
			<p begin="00:08:21.840" end="00:08:26,860" style="1">the virus in these cell lines,it didn&apos;t take long for a screening test</p>
			<p begin="00:08:26.940" end="00:08:30,160" style="1">to be put on in market,an immunologic screening test,</p>
			<p begin="00:08:30.240" end="00:08:31,470" style="1">the ELISA test,</p>
			<p begin="00:08:31.570" end="00:08:35,800" style="1">which hit the market in March of 1985and was quickly distributed</p>
			<p begin="00:08:35.880" end="00:08:37,920" style="1">throughout the countryto most of the blood banks.</p>
			<p begin="00:08:38.760" end="00:08:44,260" style="1">I should add that there was one heckof a lot of work that was going on</p>
			<p begin="00:08:44.340" end="00:08:49,620" style="1">between 1982 when we first consideredthe retrovirus as being etiologic agent</p>
			<p begin="00:08:50.220" end="00:08:53,080" style="1">until we were able to commercially produce</p>
			<p begin="00:08:53.160" end="00:08:55,480" style="1">this screening testwith the ELISA technique</p>
			<p begin="00:08:55.560" end="00:08:59,040" style="1">to pick up antibodies in a serumof patients infected with the virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:09:00.180" end="00:09:02,200" style="1">As Margaret Heckler saidwhen we first announced</p>
			<p begin="00:09:02.280" end="00:09:05,680" style="1">that we had isolated the virus,never had we learned so much</p>
			<p begin="00:09:05.760" end="00:09:08,160" style="1">about a single diseasein such a short period of time.</p>
			<p begin="00:09:08.820" end="00:09:09,940" style="1">Indeed, that is the case.</p>
			<p begin="00:09:10.020" end="00:09:13,780" style="1">I think we&apos;re goingto see a great amount of spinoff</p>
			<p begin="00:09:13.860" end="00:09:17,560" style="1">from all the investigationsthat have gone on with respect</p>
			<p begin="00:09:17.640" end="00:09:21,120" style="1">to this disease that will hopefully impacton other areas of medicine.</p>
			<p begin="00:09:22.080" end="00:09:23,320" style="1">In fact, they already have.</p>
			<p begin="00:09:23.400" end="00:09:25,283" style="1">I think we&apos;re going to see itfor years to come.</p>
			<p begin="00:09:26.400" end="00:09:30,640" style="1">With this test readily availablein all of the blood banks</p>
			<p begin="00:09:30.720" end="00:09:32,620" style="1">throughout the country, we then had</p>
			<p begin="00:09:32.700" end="00:09:37,240" style="1">a screening method for picking up patientswho were infected with the HTLV-3 virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:09:37.320" end="00:09:39,760" style="1">Now, please keep in mind,it&apos;s just picking up</p>
			<p begin="00:09:39.840" end="00:09:42,280" style="1">patients who have been exposedor infected with the virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:09:42.360" end="00:09:44,460" style="1">We&apos;re not talkingabout patients who had AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:09:45.420" end="00:09:50,080" style="1">Finally, here we are in 1987,the AIDS epidemic continues.</p>
			<p begin="00:09:50.160" end="00:09:53,160" style="1">It is indeed now a pandemic.</p>
			<p begin="00:09:55.380" end="00:09:58,260" style="1">There weremore than 80 countries reporting AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:09:59.280" end="00:10:01,540" style="1">You&apos;ll see that the beat goes on.</p>
			<p begin="00:10:01.620" end="00:10:07,060" style="1">As one notes, as of January of 1987,I think you can get a good perspective</p>
			<p begin="00:10:07.140" end="00:10:10,560" style="1">as to what&apos;s going onwith the AIDS epidemic in this country.</p>
			<p begin="00:10:12.180" end="00:10:15,220" style="1">As of January, there aremore than 29,000 AIDS</p>
			<p begin="00:10:15.300" end="00:10:17,560" style="1">patients reportedand registered at CDC.</p>
			<p begin="00:10:17.640" end="00:10:19,187" style="1">Again, this is in the United States.</p>
			<p begin="00:10:19.560" end="00:10:22,320" style="1">Here&apos;s another interestingand disturbing fact.</p>
			<p begin="00:10:22.860" end="00:10:27,280" style="1">There are more than 400pediatric cases reported,</p>
			<p begin="00:10:27.360" end="00:10:29,380" style="1">and this is childrenless than 13 years of age.</p>
			<p begin="00:10:29.460" end="00:10:33,520" style="1">Now, the sad reality of thisis that most of these patients,</p>
			<p begin="00:10:33.600" end="00:10:37,740" style="1">the vast majority of these kidsare infected through infected mothers.</p>
			<p begin="00:10:38.580" end="00:10:41,380" style="1">Projections indicatethat over the next four years,</p>
			<p begin="00:10:41.460" end="00:10:46,200" style="1">this will increase tenfoldto more than 4,000 cases.</p>
			<p begin="00:10:48.120" end="00:10:50,680" style="1">There have now been more than 13--actually, there are more</p>
			<p begin="00:10:50.760" end="00:10:55,660" style="1">than 14,000 deaths reportedas of January 1 of 1987 of AIDS patients.</p>
			<p begin="00:10:55.740" end="00:10:59,560" style="1">Keep in mind that 80% of these patientswho are diagnosed with AIDS will die</p>
			<p begin="00:10:59.640" end="00:11:03,520" style="1">within a 24-month period of time,and also, the median survival of a patient</p>
			<p begin="00:11:03.600" end="00:11:06,060" style="1">once he&apos;s diagnosed as having AIDSis 13 months.</p>
			<p begin="00:11:06.840" end="00:11:10,080" style="1">That&apos;s whether he&apos;s getting AZTor any kind of immunotherapy or whatever.</p>
			<p begin="00:11:12.000" end="00:11:16,840" style="1">The disturbing facts about all thisis that the CDC estimates,</p>
			<p begin="00:11:16.920" end="00:11:20,100" style="1">and these are very conservative estimates,and they make that very clear,</p>
			<p begin="00:11:20.820" end="00:11:25,300" style="1">if the epidemic continuesas it is now in this country, in 1988,</p>
			<p begin="00:11:25.380" end="00:11:29,160" style="1">we will have91,000 registered cases of AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:11:30.360" end="00:11:34,020" style="1">In 1990, we will havealmost 200,000 cases of AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:11:34.920" end="00:11:40,320" style="1">By January of 1991, we&apos;re goingto have over 268,000 cases of AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:11:41.280" end="00:11:42,880" style="1">Now, you can see,</p>
			<p begin="00:11:42.960" end="00:11:46,200" style="1">it&apos;s almost an exponential increasein a number of cases.</p>
			<p begin="00:11:47.160" end="00:11:52,080" style="1">The number of cases of AIDS is doublingevery 13 months in this country.</p>
			<p begin="00:11:53.160" end="00:11:55,360" style="1">Now, this is only the tipof the iceberg because,</p>
			<p begin="00:11:55.440" end="00:11:57,520" style="1">as I mentioned to youearlier in my open remarks,</p>
			<p begin="00:11:57.600" end="00:12:00,160" style="1">that AIDS is not unique to this country.</p>
			<p begin="00:12:00.240" end="00:12:01,600" style="1">It&apos;s a pandemic.</p>
			<p begin="00:12:01.680" end="00:12:04,240" style="1">There are more than 80 countriesare now reporting AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:12:04.320" end="00:12:07,620" style="1">Unfortunately, we really don&apos;t havea good handle on their statistics.</p>
			<p begin="00:12:08.400" end="00:12:11,100" style="1">Many of these countrieshave gotten on a bandwagon rather late.</p>
			<p begin="00:12:13.680" end="00:12:19,480" style="1">The death rate to AIDS, one can see, again,we have a similar type of curve.</p>
			<p begin="00:12:19.560" end="00:12:24,034" style="1">By January of 1991, there will be</p>
			<p begin="00:12:24.114" end="00:12:27,340" style="1">more than 55,000 patients will have died</p>
			<p begin="00:12:27.420" end="00:12:29,160" style="1">because of AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:12:30.180" end="00:12:33,640" style="1">I think you have to understandthat most of these patients</p>
			<p begin="00:12:33.720" end="00:12:38,200" style="1">over that 13-month period of time,from the diagnosis to the time of death,</p>
			<p begin="00:12:38.280" end="00:12:40,600" style="1">will require a great dealof medical care and attention,</p>
			<p begin="00:12:40.680" end="00:12:42,760" style="1">and it&apos;s a horrendous expense.</p>
			<p begin="00:12:42.840" end="00:12:45,820" style="1">I don&apos;t think you can think about AIDSwithout understanding</p>
			<p begin="00:12:45.900" end="00:12:49,480" style="1">and at least thinkingabout the implications it has for the</p>
			<p begin="00:12:49.560" end="00:12:52,000" style="1">cost of medicine in this countryand any other country</p>
			<p begin="00:12:52.080" end="00:12:55,800" style="1">and also the socioeconomic impact it hason the country in general.</p>
			<p begin="00:12:56.460" end="00:13:00,300" style="1">That&apos;s why this issuch a hot issue in legislation right now.</p>
			<p begin="00:13:03.600" end="00:13:06,120" style="1">As I mentioned,this is only the tip of the iceberg.</p>
			<p begin="00:13:06.840" end="00:13:08,260" style="1">Let me reiterate, too,</p>
			<p begin="00:13:08.340" end="00:13:11,680" style="1">that most of these countrieshave only recently begun</p>
			<p begin="00:13:11.760" end="00:13:14,260" style="1">reporting cases of AIDSto the World Health Organization.</p>
			<p begin="00:13:14.340" end="00:13:17,020" style="1">They do have CDCsin some of the countries,</p>
			<p begin="00:13:17.100" end="00:13:19,360" style="1">but the World Health Organizationhas had to intervene</p>
			<p begin="00:13:19.440" end="00:13:22,840" style="1">because many of these countriesare not reporting their cases of AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:13:22.920" end="00:13:26,920" style="1">Britain is doing a wonderful jobin terms of education.</p>
			<p begin="00:13:27.000" end="00:13:28,780" style="1">The British people arevery concerned about this.</p>
			<p begin="00:13:28.860" end="00:13:30,700" style="1">They&apos;ve already made concerted efforts</p>
			<p begin="00:13:30.780" end="00:13:33,640" style="1">to curb the spread of AIDSthroughout the British Isles.</p>
			<p begin="00:13:33.720" end="00:13:38,560" style="1">They have, as of 1982,only 548 cases reported.</p>
			<p begin="00:13:38.640" end="00:13:41,020" style="1">France, where the situationis a bit different,</p>
			<p begin="00:13:41.100" end="00:13:42,520" style="1">they&apos;re not doing much at all.</p>
			<p begin="00:13:42.600" end="00:13:44,800" style="1">The French government,over the past several years,</p>
			<p begin="00:13:44.880" end="00:13:50,920" style="1">is turning their head awayfrom this whole terrible issue of AIDS,</p>
			<p begin="00:13:51.000" end="00:13:52,540" style="1">and it&apos;s believed that there are</p>
			<p begin="00:13:52.620" end="00:13:54,960" style="1">more than 2,000 casesin the city of Paris alone.</p>
			<p begin="00:13:55.560" end="00:13:56,980" style="1">This is from officials</p>
			<p begin="00:13:57.060" end="00:13:59,740" style="1">that are working withthe French Red Cross,</p>
			<p begin="00:13:59.820" end="00:14:04,060" style="1">but the French government recognizesand realizes the tremendous drain</p>
			<p begin="00:14:04.140" end="00:14:07,960" style="1">on the economyif we begin in earnest looking</p>
			<p begin="00:14:08.040" end="00:14:11,140" style="1">for programs for educationand treatment of AIDS patients.</p>
			<p begin="00:14:11.220" end="00:14:12,820" style="1">The same is true in West Germany.</p>
			<p begin="00:14:12.900" end="00:14:16,960" style="1">The West Germans have not chosento really escalate this</p>
			<p begin="00:14:17.040" end="00:14:19,960" style="1">to a high-priority issue,and the government is</p>
			<p begin="00:14:20.040" end="00:14:23,580" style="1">not really carrying outany kind of meaningful education programs.</p>
			<p begin="00:14:24.120" end="00:14:28,060" style="1">Switzerland is an interesting storybecause Switzerland has</p>
			<p begin="00:14:28.140" end="00:14:32,100" style="1">the highest rate of AIDS per capitain the European countries.</p>
			<p begin="00:14:32.640" end="00:14:35,820" style="1">The four major cities in Switzerlandhave all reported AIDS,</p>
			<p begin="00:14:36.720" end="00:14:37,878" style="1">the four major cities.</p>
			<p begin="00:14:39.240" end="00:14:42,340" style="1">The incidentsright now is quite disturbing.</p>
			<p begin="00:14:42.420" end="00:14:47,320" style="1">The Swiss government is carryingon some very good educational programs,</p>
			<p begin="00:14:47.400" end="00:14:50,920" style="1">and it seems that Switzerland,because of the four major cities, will be</p>
			<p begin="00:14:51.000" end="00:14:53,700" style="1">able to cope with the AIDS populationin terms of treatment.</p>
			<p begin="00:14:54.453" end="00:14:56,746" style="1">That&apos;s what manyof the underdeveloped countries</p>
			<p begin="00:14:56.826" end="00:14:58,338" style="1">are very concerned about.</p>
			<p begin="00:14:58.457" end="00:15:01,300" style="1">You notice on this list, you don&apos;t seethe countries along the Mediterranean</p>
			<p begin="00:15:01.380" end="00:15:05,080" style="1">because their economy isa little less stable, and they&apos;re very,</p>
			<p begin="00:15:05.160" end="00:15:08,080" style="1">very concernedabout the number of hospital beds</p>
			<p begin="00:15:08.160" end="00:15:11,580" style="1">and a number of hospital personnelto care for AIDS patients.</p>
			<p begin="00:15:12.780" end="00:15:17,820" style="1">We really have virtually no reportsfrom Portugal, Spain, Italy, and Greece.</p>
			<p begin="00:15:17.981" end="00:15:20,922" style="1">There is no questionthat AIDS is prevalent</p>
			<p begin="00:15:21.009" end="00:15:22,840" style="1">in all these Mediterranean countries.</p>
			<p begin="00:15:22.920" end="00:15:24,400" style="1">Africa is quite a different story.</p>
			<p begin="00:15:24.480" end="00:15:27,400" style="1">It&apos;s just a big mess in Africa.</p>
			<p begin="00:15:27.480" end="00:15:29,320" style="1">It&apos;s the hidden plague, as they call it.</p>
			<p begin="00:15:29.400" end="00:15:32,380" style="1">Most of the British researchersand some of the people from CDC</p>
			<p begin="00:15:32.460" end="00:15:34,066" style="1">from our country who have been there</p>
			<p begin="00:15:34.226" end="00:15:36,700" style="1">recognize and realizethat everything is in disarray.</p>
			<p begin="00:15:36.780" end="00:15:38,680" style="1">They are not reporting the cases.</p>
			<p begin="00:15:38.760" end="00:15:41,980" style="1">In fact, the firstcases reported in Africa from some</p>
			<p begin="00:15:42.060" end="00:15:46,480" style="1">of the countries in South Central Africa,that is, Kenya, Uganda, Zambia</p>
			<p begin="00:15:46.560" end="00:15:52,420" style="1">were reported in 1983, and in Zambia,the first case was reported in early 1985.</p>
			<p begin="00:15:52.500" end="00:15:54,880" style="1">They like to thinkthat they don&apos;t have an AIDS problem.</p>
			<p begin="00:15:54.960" end="00:15:56,140" style="1">They call it the slims there.</p>
			<p begin="00:15:56.220" end="00:15:59,140" style="1">The patients havea tremendous amount of weight loss.</p>
			<p begin="00:15:59.220" end="00:16:00,200" style="1">They look eclectic,</p>
			<p begin="00:16:00.335" end="00:16:03,420" style="1">and they die within a period of six monthsafter the diagnosis is made.</p>
			<p begin="00:16:04.500" end="00:16:10,080" style="1">They&apos;ve been really very, very hamperedby statistics and medical care.</p>
			<p begin="00:16:11.580" end="00:16:14,620" style="1">Africa, we have no idea</p>
			<p begin="00:16:14.700" end="00:16:19,120" style="1">what the incidents of AIDSis in the major African urban areas,</p>
			<p begin="00:16:19.200" end="00:16:22,360" style="1">but I can tell you that there aresome studies that are going on now,</p>
			<p begin="00:16:22.440" end="00:16:24,760" style="1">primarily by the Britishand some American investigators,</p>
			<p begin="00:16:24.840" end="00:16:29,800" style="1">that indicatethat more than 50% of the prostitutes</p>
			<p begin="00:16:29.880" end="00:16:32,980" style="1">in the major citiesin the countries in Central Africa,</p>
			<p begin="00:16:33.060" end="00:16:36,700" style="1">in South-Central Africa,are infected with this virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:16:36.780" end="00:16:39,400" style="1">Now, this is quite differentthe mode of transmission</p>
			<p begin="00:16:39.480" end="00:16:41,920" style="1">than what I&apos;m goingto talk about here in this country.</p>
			<p begin="00:16:42.000" end="00:16:45,580" style="1">These are prostitutesworking in major cities,</p>
			<p begin="00:16:45.660" end="00:16:48,160" style="1">and there&apos;s no questionthat the disease is being transmitted</p>
			<p begin="00:16:48.240" end="00:16:53,020" style="1">in a sexual way as opposedto the urban areas in our country</p>
			<p begin="00:16:53.100" end="00:16:56,620" style="1">where the prostitutes are HTLV-3 positive,</p>
			<p begin="00:16:56.700" end="00:17:00,360" style="1">primarily because they areIV drug users and abusers.</p>
			<p begin="00:17:01.440" end="00:17:05,140" style="1">Africa remains a real hotspot for AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:17:05.220" end="00:17:07,780" style="1">Again, it&apos;s an area that we&apos;re goingto have to watch very carefully</p>
			<p begin="00:17:07.860" end="00:17:11,620" style="1">because most people thinkthat AIDS really started in Africa,</p>
			<p begin="00:17:11.700" end="00:17:13,740" style="1">came to United Statesby way of the Caribbean.</p>
			<p begin="00:17:15.540" end="00:17:17,620" style="1">There are some studies that indicate,</p>
			<p begin="00:17:17.700" end="00:17:22,360" style="1">or that estimatethat 1% to 2% of the African population,</p>
			<p begin="00:17:22.440" end="00:17:27,400" style="1">that is the Sub-Sahara population,is infected with the virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:17:27.480" end="00:17:29,880" style="1">Now, that does not include South Africa.</p>
			<p begin="00:17:31.500" end="00:17:34,300" style="1">There are other studiesthat have come out of Kampala</p>
			<p begin="00:17:34.380" end="00:17:38,140" style="1">which indicatethat 6% to 7% of the healthcare workers</p>
			<p begin="00:17:38.220" end="00:17:41,400" style="1">in the countries of Central Africaare infected with the virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:17:42.240" end="00:17:46,480" style="1">That&apos;s a staggering statisticbecause it really impacts greatly,</p>
			<p begin="00:17:46.560" end="00:17:49,920" style="1">not only on the medical care facilitiesbut also on economy of the country.</p>
			<p begin="00:17:52.080" end="00:17:54,760" style="1">It&apos;s been estimatedthat 20% to 30%</p>
			<p begin="00:17:54.840" end="00:17:58,560" style="1">of the patients in Zambiaare infected with this virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:17:59.160" end="00:18:02,140" style="1">Now, depending uponwhat percentage of patients</p>
			<p begin="00:18:02.220" end="00:18:06,400" style="1">are going to develop AIDS in the futureafter being infected with the virus,</p>
			<p begin="00:18:06.480" end="00:18:08,380" style="1">it&apos;s going to have a tremendous impact</p>
			<p begin="00:18:08.460" end="00:18:10,380" style="1">on the workforcein these countries  as well.</p>
			<p begin="00:18:11.220" end="00:18:15,640" style="1">Currently, this is what the Britishhealthcare workers are trying</p>
			<p begin="00:18:15.720" end="00:18:19,840" style="1">to get across to the governmentsin these countries in Central Africa.</p>
			<p begin="00:18:19.920" end="00:18:23,460" style="1">Brazil is, again, a real hotspot for AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:18:24.300" end="00:18:27,100" style="1">Brazil started reporting AIDS in 1984.</p>
			<p begin="00:18:27.180" end="00:18:29,080" style="1">They now have 1,100 cases.</p>
			<p begin="00:18:29.160" end="00:18:31,180" style="1">American Red Cross people in Brazil,</p>
			<p begin="00:18:31.260" end="00:18:33,100" style="1">in conjunctionwith the Brazilian Red Cross</p>
			<p begin="00:18:33.180" end="00:18:35,880" style="1">feel that there aremore than 3,000 cases of AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:18:36.540" end="00:18:38,980" style="1">They are not reporting AIDSlike they should be.</p>
			<p begin="00:18:39.060" end="00:18:41,460" style="1">Their education programs are very meager.</p>
			<p begin="00:18:42.120" end="00:18:44,320" style="1">I don&apos;t know how many of youare familiar with Brazil,</p>
			<p begin="00:18:44.400" end="00:18:47,740" style="1">but there are more than 10 major citiesor urban areas in Brazil,</p>
			<p begin="00:18:47.820" end="00:18:50,080" style="1">and the sanitation conditions in Brazil</p>
			<p begin="00:18:50.160" end="00:18:52,900" style="1">are really quite badin some of these major areas.</p>
			<p begin="00:18:52.980" end="00:18:55,480" style="1">San Paulo is the largest city</p>
			<p begin="00:18:55.560" end="00:18:57,600" style="1">in the world right nowwith 16 million people.</p>
			<p begin="00:18:58.500" end="00:19:02,560" style="1">There&apos;s a lot of people in Sao Paulowho have been infected with the virus</p>
			<p begin="00:19:02.640" end="00:19:03,760" style="1">and in fact, who have AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:19:03.840" end="00:19:05,020" style="1">One of the problems in Brazil</p>
			<p begin="00:19:05.100" end="00:19:07,840" style="1">that&apos;s pointed out is thattheir lack of hospital beds</p>
			<p begin="00:19:07.920" end="00:19:10,560" style="1">and lack of healthcare workersto care for these people.</p>
			<p begin="00:19:11.640" end="00:19:14,620" style="1">Again, the government is nottoo terribly interested in making</p>
			<p begin="00:19:14.700" end="00:19:16,540" style="1">concerted efforts along these lines.</p>
			<p begin="00:19:16.620" end="00:19:21,400" style="1">Brazil has just hada radical change in government in 1984,</p>
			<p begin="00:19:21.480" end="00:19:24,520" style="1">for those of you that haven&apos;t seenthe latest National Geographic.</p>
			<p begin="00:19:24.600" end="00:19:27,940" style="1">Puerto Rico has reported 115 cases.</p>
			<p begin="00:19:28.020" end="00:19:30,720" style="1">Puerto Rico startedreporting cases in 1982.</p>
			<p begin="00:19:31.380" end="00:19:34,440" style="1">115 patients reportedprimarily from San Juan.</p>
			<p begin="00:19:36.060" end="00:19:39,400" style="1">The interesting story about Japanis that Japan started reporting</p>
			<p begin="00:19:39.480" end="00:19:44,260" style="1">cases to the World Health Organizationin conjunction with CDC back in 1981,</p>
			<p begin="00:19:44.340" end="00:19:48,460" style="1">a few months after the United States beganreporting their case at the CDC.</p>
			<p begin="00:19:48.540" end="00:19:53,880" style="1">Japan has had only 25 cases reported,and this is as of January 1, 1987.</p>
			<p begin="00:19:54.480" end="00:19:59,340" style="1">They have done a horrendous jobin terms of education with their people.</p>
			<p begin="00:19:59.940" end="00:20:03,340" style="1">Many of the bathhouses have been closed.</p>
			<p begin="00:20:03.420" end="00:20:06,180" style="1">The prostitutes are being screened.</p>
			<p begin="00:20:07.620" end="00:20:12,040" style="1">Although getting HTLV-3serologies is not mandatory,</p>
			<p begin="00:20:12.120" end="00:20:15,280" style="1">they do draw one in every patientthat is admitted to the hospital</p>
			<p begin="00:20:15.360" end="00:20:16,674" style="1">for whatever.</p>
			<p begin="00:20:17.160" end="00:20:20,020" style="1">The Japanese have gota much better handle on the situation.</p>
			<p begin="00:20:20.100" end="00:20:23,260" style="1">I think we&apos;re goingto learn a lot from the Japanese in terms</p>
			<p begin="00:20:23.340" end="00:20:26,800" style="1">of looking at the overall incidenceof infection with the virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:20:26.880" end="00:20:31,120" style="1">The Japanese, of course, had the advantageof having worked with the HTLV-1 virus,</p>
			<p begin="00:20:31.200" end="00:20:33,240" style="1">which is endemicin the southwest islands of Japan.</p>
			<p begin="00:20:33.852" end="00:20:35,440" style="1">They knew a lot about the virus,</p>
			<p begin="00:20:35.520" end="00:20:37,800" style="1">and they knew somethingabout the modes of transmission.</p>
			<p begin="00:20:38.400" end="00:20:40,560" style="1">I think, more importantly,they&apos;re very astute people.</p>
			<p begin="00:20:41.460" end="00:20:46,300" style="1">Their government isquite aware of the impact this could have</p>
			<p begin="00:20:46.380" end="00:20:49,140" style="1">on a socioeconomic situationin the country.</p>
			<p begin="00:20:51.600" end="00:20:56,040" style="1">This is clearlyan urban disease for the present.</p>
			<p begin="00:20:58.320" end="00:20:59,313" style="1">Is that clear?</p>
			<p begin="00:21:01.500" end="00:21:05,500" style="1">Most of the cases still are being reportedfrom the major cities</p>
			<p begin="00:21:05.580" end="00:21:08,100" style="1">throughout the country,and it&apos;s true throughout the world.</p>
			<p begin="00:21:09.840" end="00:21:10,860" style="1">If we look at the slide,</p>
			<p begin="00:21:13.560" end="00:21:19,360" style="1">New York, San Francisco,and Los Angeles account for 43%</p>
			<p begin="00:21:19.440" end="00:21:23,820" style="1">of the AIDS cases that have been reportedas of December in this country.</p>
			<p begin="00:21:25.200" end="00:21:28,420" style="1">These are really the hotbeds of AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:21:28.500" end="00:21:30,820" style="1">Of course, we all know thatthere&apos;s a very  large gay population</p>
			<p begin="00:21:30.900" end="00:21:35,020" style="1">in San Francisco and Los Angeles,as well as New York, but there&apos;s a very,</p>
			<p begin="00:21:35.100" end="00:21:37,840" style="1">very large populationof IV drug users and abusers</p>
			<p begin="00:21:37.920" end="00:21:39,127" style="1">in New York City.</p>
			<p begin="00:21:39.480" end="00:21:44,260" style="1">I think that  New York Cityhas had almost 4,000 cases</p>
			<p begin="00:21:44.340" end="00:21:45,570" style="1">just last year alone.</p>
			<p begin="00:21:46.080" end="00:21:51,300" style="1">Again, that&apos;s almost 45% of the numberof cases that were reported in 1986.</p>
			<p begin="00:21:52.800" end="00:21:56,440" style="1">Again, as you get down the list,one can see virtually all the major cities</p>
			<p begin="00:21:56.520" end="00:21:59,160" style="1">throughout the countryexcept Fort Lauderdale.</p>
			<p begin="00:21:59.760" end="00:22:06,220" style="1">I should mention, too, that there&apos;s beena very disconcerting number of cases in</p>
			<p begin="00:22:06.300" end="00:22:09,000" style="1">the Fort Lauderdaleand Palm Beach area of Florida.</p>
			<p begin="00:22:11.120" end="00:22:15,940" style="1">The high-risk groups have stayed the same,except if you look here,</p>
			<p begin="00:22:16.020" end="00:22:19,600" style="1">I took out the Haitians primarilybecause it&apos;s no longer the Haitians.</p>
			<p begin="00:22:19.680" end="00:22:22,920" style="1">It&apos;s many, many immigrantsfrom the Caribbean Islands.</p>
			<p begin="00:22:24.000" end="00:22:26,140" style="1">The Haitians got the bum rap inthe early &apos;80s.</p>
			<p begin="00:22:26.220" end="00:22:30,460" style="1">There was a very high incidence of peoplewho immigrated here to the country</p>
			<p begin="00:22:30.540" end="00:22:32,380" style="1">from Haiti.</p>
			<p begin="00:22:32.460" end="00:22:35,800" style="1">I think we&apos;re well aware of peoplecoming here from the Dominican Republic</p>
			<p begin="00:22:35.880" end="00:22:38,620" style="1">and other underdeveloped countriesfrom the Caribbean</p>
			<p begin="00:22:38.700" end="00:22:41,220" style="1">who have a high incidence of infection.</p>
			<p begin="00:22:42.120" end="00:22:44,140" style="1">The homosexuals and bisexual males</p>
			<p begin="00:22:44.220" end="00:22:46,620" style="1">still make out the bulkof the patients with AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:22:47.280" end="00:22:51,820" style="1">They make up approximately 70% to 75%of the patients with AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:22:51.900" end="00:22:55,380" style="1">IV drug users are still holding firmat about 20% to 25%.</p>
			<p begin="00:22:56.127" end="00:22:57,580" style="1">This is an interesting statistic.</p>
			<p begin="00:22:57.660" end="00:23:00,660" style="1">90% of the IV drug usersare heterosexuals.</p>
			<p begin="00:23:01.260" end="00:23:03,160" style="1">There&apos;s another littleinteresting caveat here,</p>
			<p begin="00:23:03.240" end="00:23:05,440" style="1">is that 30%of these heterosexual</p>
			<p begin="00:23:05.520" end="00:23:07,320" style="1">IV drug usersare female.</p>
			<p begin="00:23:09.180" end="00:23:12,420" style="1">In conjunction with that, 90% ofthat 30% of the females</p>
			<p begin="00:23:13.200" end="00:23:14,460" style="1">are in childbearing age.</p>
			<p begin="00:23:16.133" end="00:23:18,100" style="1">That&apos;s where the pediatric casesare coming from.</p>
			<p begin="00:23:18.180" end="00:23:21,460" style="1">They&apos;re coming from the IV drug usersthat are female,</p>
			<p begin="00:23:21.540" end="00:23:23,200" style="1">the female prostitutes primarily,</p>
			<p begin="00:23:23.280" end="00:23:25,200" style="1">and they&apos;re passing it onthrough the children.</p>
			<p begin="00:23:26.640" end="00:23:29,880" style="1">It can be passed onthrough mother&apos;s milk or through delivery.</p>
			<p begin="00:23:30.900" end="00:23:33,580" style="1">The heterosexual females is a real problem.</p>
			<p begin="00:23:33.660" end="00:23:38,020" style="1">Of course,this is another mode of transmission.</p>
			<p begin="00:23:38.100" end="00:23:41,980" style="1">Of course, the heteros havingthis thing become more prominent</p>
			<p begin="00:23:42.060" end="00:23:45,640" style="1">in the heterosexual population meansthat none of us are going</p>
			<p begin="00:23:45.720" end="00:23:50,140" style="1">to be spared from the possibilityof becoming infected with the AIDS virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:23:50.220" end="00:23:53,920" style="1">There are about 2,400 casesof heterosexual females</p>
			<p begin="00:23:54.000" end="00:23:56,340" style="1">that have been reportedas of January of 1987.</p>
			<p begin="00:23:57.180" end="00:23:59,260" style="1">CDC estimates and again, conservatively,</p>
			<p begin="00:23:59.340" end="00:24:04,620" style="1">that there will be about 28,000 casesby January of 1991.</p>
			<p begin="00:24:06.240" end="00:24:09,060" style="1">They&apos;re concerned about thatbecause of the incidents</p>
			<p begin="00:24:09.840" end="00:24:14,040" style="1">of infectivityfound amongst the prostitutes.</p>
			<p begin="00:24:15.420" end="00:24:17,200" style="1">There&apos;s about one-thirdthe number of houses</p>
			<p begin="00:24:17.280" end="00:24:21,780" style="1">of prostitution open in Houstonas there was three years ago.</p>
			<p begin="00:24:22.980" end="00:24:25,800" style="1">The ladies are learning very, very quickly.</p>
			<p begin="00:24:26.580" end="00:24:27,940" style="1">I&apos;m afraid that it&apos;s too late,</p>
			<p begin="00:24:28.020" end="00:24:32,320" style="1">and the situationis really running rampant now</p>
			<p begin="00:24:32.400" end="00:24:34,600" style="1">through the heterosexual populationthrough the country.</p>
			<p begin="00:24:34.680" end="00:24:39,460" style="1">Hemophiliacs still make up1% of the number of cases in AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:24:39.540" end="00:24:40,600" style="1">As of January,</p>
			<p begin="00:24:40.680" end="00:24:45,580" style="1">there were 284 cases of AIDSin hemophiliacs.</p>
			<p begin="00:24:45.660" end="00:24:50,020" style="1">This includes Hemophilia A, hemophilia B,and von Willebrand disease.</p>
			<p begin="00:24:50.100" end="00:24:53,980" style="1">Of course,these poor people contract dates</p>
			<p begin="00:24:54.060" end="00:24:55,660" style="1">by virtue of the fact that they received</p>
			<p begin="00:24:55.740" end="00:24:57,480" style="1">blood and blood productsso very frequently.</p>
			<p begin="00:24:58.500" end="00:25:01,540" style="1">Of course, remember back in 1982when Bob Gallo was investigating</p>
			<p begin="00:25:01.620" end="00:25:04,060" style="1">an etiologic agent,he recognized and realized</p>
			<p begin="00:25:04.140" end="00:25:07,150" style="1">that this was a filterable virus</p>
			<p begin="00:25:07.230" end="00:25:11,320" style="1">because of the incidence of infectivity</p>
			<p begin="00:25:11.400" end="00:25:14,640" style="1">being caused in patientswho are receiving blood and blood products.</p>
			<p begin="00:25:15.008" end="00:25:16,540" style="1">That these were just a token number</p>
			<p begin="00:25:16.620" end="00:25:18,400" style="1">of blood and blood productsin some of these patients,</p>
			<p begin="00:25:18.480" end="00:25:20,996" style="1">and that populationwe&apos;re still concerned about.</p>
			<p begin="00:25:23.160" end="00:25:27,460" style="1">I think these are very disturbing statistics.</p>
			<p begin="00:25:27.540" end="00:25:34,360" style="1">I really feel compelled to show thisbecause this is disconcerting.</p>
			<p begin="00:25:34.440" end="00:25:36,220" style="1">Again, it points out</p>
			<p begin="00:25:36.300" end="00:25:38,920" style="1">the problems that are occurringin the major urban areas.</p>
			<p begin="00:25:39.000" end="00:25:42,480" style="1">This is New York City,which is the epitome of the AIDS problem.</p>
			<p begin="00:25:44.400" end="00:25:47,020" style="1">Of the IV drug abusersthat have been studied in New York City,</p>
			<p begin="00:25:47.100" end="00:25:50,680" style="1">60% are HTLV-3 or HIV positive.</p>
			<p begin="00:25:50.760" end="00:25:53,640" style="1">60% have been infected by the virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:25:55.320" end="00:25:58,780" style="1">Of a large groupof homosexual and bisexual males,</p>
			<p begin="00:25:58.860" end="00:26:01,200" style="1">40% are infected.</p>
			<p begin="00:26:01.860" end="00:26:05,620" style="1">It&apos;s a horrendous populationof homosexuals and bisexuals</p>
			<p begin="00:26:05.700" end="00:26:06,922" style="1">in New York City.</p>
			<p begin="00:26:07.380" end="00:26:10,300" style="1">Now, what&apos;s really disturbing is the</p>
			<p begin="00:26:10.380" end="00:26:14,200" style="1">number of military enlisteeswho are HTLV-3 positive.</p>
			<p begin="00:26:14.280" end="00:26:16,480" style="1">One out of every 50 people</p>
			<p begin="00:26:16.560" end="00:26:19,060" style="1">between the ages of 18--This is males, by the way.</p>
			<p begin="00:26:19.140" end="00:26:20,302" style="1">I should qualify that.</p>
			<p begin="00:26:20.640" end="00:26:25,660" style="1">Between the ages of 15 and 25 who enlistinto the service are positive.</p>
			<p begin="00:26:25.740" end="00:26:27,240" style="1">1 out of 50.</p>
			<p begin="00:26:28.140" end="00:26:33,360" style="1">Now, what&apos;s the national average,about 1 in 700, same age group, same-sex.</p>
			<p begin="00:26:34.200" end="00:26:39,660" style="1">In women, it&apos;s much, much less frequent,but that is very disturbing.</p>
			<p begin="00:26:40.500" end="00:26:45,480" style="1">1 out of 50 from Manhattanis HTLV-3 positive.</p>
			<p begin="00:26:46.380" end="00:26:49,240" style="1">Now, if one looks atthe five Boroughs of New York,</p>
			<p begin="00:26:49.320" end="00:26:52,840" style="1">the incidence is significantly less.</p>
			<p begin="00:26:52.920" end="00:26:56,160" style="1">It&apos;s about 1 out of every 200 or 1out of every 300.</p>
			<p begin="00:26:57.000" end="00:26:59,380" style="1">The national average isabout 1 out of every 800,</p>
			<p begin="00:26:59.460" end="00:27:00,720" style="1">1 out of every 750.</p>
			<p begin="00:27:02.340" end="00:27:04,840" style="1">When the military findsthat they&apos;re HTLV-3 positive,</p>
			<p begin="00:27:04.920" end="00:27:06,463" style="1">they drop them like a hot potato.</p>
			<p begin="00:27:06.840" end="00:27:09,820" style="1">They have no other responsibilityto these people.</p>
			<p begin="00:27:09.900" end="00:27:13,840" style="1">In fact, they&apos;re not even responsible</p>
			<p begin="00:27:13.920" end="00:27:16,500" style="1">to report this to CDC,although they have.</p>
			<p begin="00:27:18.840" end="00:27:20,880" style="1">That is being contested at this time.</p>
			<p begin="00:27:22.440" end="00:27:25,360" style="1">I think that that gets usinto the whole matter of the ethics</p>
			<p begin="00:27:25.440" end="00:27:30,160" style="1">and the morality and the individual rightsin people in this country,</p>
			<p begin="00:27:30.240" end="00:27:33,520" style="1">the confidentiality laws,which are being banned around</p>
			<p begin="00:27:33.600" end="00:27:36,300" style="1">from pillar to postwith respect to the whole AIDS issue.</p>
			<p begin="00:27:36.567" end="00:27:38,140" style="1">I don&apos;t want to get into that now,</p>
			<p begin="00:27:38.220" end="00:27:40,980" style="1">but we can probably talk about thatwhen I get through here.</p>
			<p begin="00:27:44.280" end="00:27:45,580" style="1">Now, of course,</p>
			<p begin="00:27:45.660" end="00:27:49,180" style="1">what everybody&apos;s wondering aboutand worried about is how many people</p>
			<p begin="00:27:49.260" end="00:27:51,413" style="1">who are infected with the virusare going to get AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:27:51.780" end="00:27:53,817" style="1">I don&apos;t think anybodyhas a good handle on that.</p>
			<p begin="00:27:54.180" end="00:27:57,100" style="1">CDC estimates that there are</p>
			<p begin="00:27:57.180" end="00:28:01,560" style="1">1 to 2.5 million people in this countrywho are infected with the AIDS virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:28:02.493" end="00:28:05,080" style="1">I told you earlier that there aresome countries in Central Africa</p>
			<p begin="00:28:05.160" end="00:28:06,780" style="1">that have an incidence of 15% to 20%</p>
			<p begin="00:28:07.920" end="00:28:10,800" style="1">of the sexually active individualsare infected with the virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:28:11.340" end="00:28:15,780" style="1">The overall population may beas high as one in 2% in the Central Africa.</p>
			<p begin="00:28:16.680" end="00:28:18,760" style="1">In this country,we think it&apos;s around 2 million.</p>
			<p begin="00:28:18.840" end="00:28:21,400" style="1">That&apos;s a ballpark figure.</p>
			<p begin="00:28:21.480" end="00:28:22,840" style="1">I&apos;m not sure how they arrive</p>
			<p begin="00:28:22.920" end="00:28:24,700" style="1">at these things,but it comes</p>
			<p begin="00:28:24.780" end="00:28:29,460" style="1">from the reputable organizationswho have been studying the AIDS situation.</p>
			<p begin="00:28:30.720" end="00:28:32,320" style="1">Again, in someof the countries</p>
			<p begin="00:28:32.400" end="00:28:33,900" style="1">in Central Africa,and this is Zambia,</p>
			<p begin="00:28:35.400" end="00:28:40,180" style="1">20% to 30% of the sexually active peopleare positive, and incidentally,</p>
			<p begin="00:28:40.260" end="00:28:43,120" style="1">the Red Cross has shownthat about 15% to 20%</p>
			<p begin="00:28:43.200" end="00:28:47,680" style="1">of the sexually active people in Brazilare HTLV-3 positive.</p>
			<p begin="00:28:47.760" end="00:28:50,500" style="1">I think Brazil&apos;s another countrywe&apos;re going to have to watch</p>
			<p begin="00:28:50.580" end="00:28:53,160" style="1">for marked escalation of the AIDS problems.</p>
			<p begin="00:28:55.020" end="00:28:58,920" style="1">CDC and the National Academy of Sciencewho have been looking at this,</p>
			<p begin="00:29:00.300" end="00:29:06,100" style="1">and again, these are just estimates,feel that about 20% to 30% of patients</p>
			<p begin="00:29:06.180" end="00:29:09,000" style="1">who are infected with the viruswill go on and develop AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:29:09.660" end="00:29:13,320" style="1">Now, this figure varies all overfrom 10% to 50%,</p>
			<p begin="00:29:14.460" end="00:29:17,820" style="1">and if you&apos;re a redneck Southern Baptist,it&apos;s going to be a hundred percent.</p>
			<p begin="00:29:20.940" end="00:29:22,720" style="1">It varies greatly.</p>
			<p begin="00:29:22.800" end="00:29:24,760" style="1">I think that these arethe conservative estimates</p>
			<p begin="00:29:24.840" end="00:29:27,340" style="1">of CDC and the National Academy of Science.</p>
			<p begin="00:29:27.420" end="00:29:28,840" style="1">Within the next five years,</p>
			<p begin="00:29:28.920" end="00:29:32,160" style="1">20% to 30% of individualswill develop AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:29:32.700" end="00:29:36,040" style="1">Now, we&apos;re talking about everybodythat has a positive HTLV-3 test.</p>
			<p begin="00:29:36.120" end="00:29:39,180" style="1">We&apos;re talking about, for the most part,asymptomatic patients,</p>
			<p begin="00:29:40.080" end="00:29:41,760" style="1">people who have no symptoms at all,</p>
			<p begin="00:29:42.540" end="00:29:46,300" style="1">many people who are positiveand are picked up serendipitously</p>
			<p begin="00:29:46.380" end="00:29:50,460" style="1">through screening methods,ie, going to give blood.</p>
			<p begin="00:29:51.240" end="00:29:54,220" style="1">This is how I picked upthe last new patient</p>
			<p begin="00:29:54.300" end="00:29:55,860" style="1">we had here in the clinic.</p>
			<p begin="00:29:56.640" end="00:29:59,520" style="1">She went to give bloodand was found to be HTLV-3 positive.</p>
			<p begin="00:30:02.400" end="00:30:03,820" style="1">This is a real dilemma.</p>
			<p begin="00:30:03.900" end="00:30:06,280" style="1">I think the last wordis not in on this situation,</p>
			<p begin="00:30:06.360" end="00:30:08,320" style="1">of course, and I thinkwe&apos;re all going to</p>
			<p begin="00:30:08.400" end="00:30:10,840" style="1">be very interestedto see how things go.</p>
			<p begin="00:30:10.920" end="00:30:12,400" style="1">I think we&apos;re going to geta handle on this</p>
			<p begin="00:30:12.480" end="00:30:14,040" style="1">by looking at the military recruits.</p>
			<p begin="00:30:15.000" end="00:30:18,940" style="1">One other interesting point,no one knows what the incubation period</p>
			<p begin="00:30:19.020" end="00:30:23,680" style="1">of the AIDS virus is, but we do knowthat it can be longer than 10 years.</p>
			<p begin="00:30:23.760" end="00:30:25,600" style="1">There are some interesting studiesthat have come</p>
			<p begin="00:30:25.680" end="00:30:30,220" style="1">out of San Francisco and out of Atlantalooking at serum specimens</p>
			<p begin="00:30:30.300" end="00:30:32,860" style="1">from patients who were studiedfor other problems and other diseases.</p>
			<p begin="00:30:32.940" end="00:30:36,280" style="1">The one in San Franciscowas the hepatitis B virus study.</p>
			<p begin="00:30:36.360" end="00:30:37,620" style="1">That was done in 1972.</p>
			<p begin="00:30:38.160" end="00:30:41,040" style="1">They went backand pulled these frozen specimens.</p>
			<p begin="00:30:41.354" end="00:30:42,700" style="1">They found, indeed,</p>
			<p begin="00:30:42.780" end="00:30:45,880" style="1">that there was a small but significantpercentage of those patients</p>
			<p begin="00:30:45.960" end="00:30:49,960" style="1">that had evidenceof having been infected with the virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:30:50.040" end="00:30:51,900" style="1">They had antibodies to the virus.</p>
			<p begin="00:30:52.560" end="00:30:54,460" style="1">We know that the AIDS virushas been around</p>
			<p begin="00:30:54.540" end="00:30:56,220" style="1">for at least 10 years, 15 years,</p>
			<p begin="00:30:56.760" end="00:31:00,720" style="1">but what the incubation periodof that virus is, we have no idea.</p>
			<p begin="00:31:02.580" end="00:31:05,986" style="1">Again, these are the estimatesof small cohorts of patients</p>
			<p begin="00:31:06.066" end="00:31:09,780" style="1">that have been followed by CDC since 1981.</p>
			<p begin="00:31:11.417" end="00:31:12,420" style="1">In Africa,</p>
			<p begin="00:31:13.200" end="00:31:17,340" style="1">there&apos;s a very high incidenceof the AIDS virus in children.</p>
			<p begin="00:31:18.120" end="00:31:20,800" style="1">Many people think that theincubation period of</p>
			<p begin="00:31:20.880" end="00:31:23,260" style="1">the virus in childrenis very long, and in fact,</p>
			<p begin="00:31:23.340" end="00:31:26,760" style="1">it may not lead to AIDS at allor the ARC syndrome.</p>
			<p begin="00:31:29.160" end="00:31:32,440" style="1">This may be somethingvery common in the environment,</p>
			<p begin="00:31:32.520" end="00:31:37,240" style="1">whatever way it may be transmittedin the countries, in Central Africa</p>
			<p begin="00:31:37.320" end="00:31:42,040" style="1">that children get infected with,just like the EB virus</p>
			<p begin="00:31:42.120" end="00:31:45,820" style="1">and just some of the other virusesthat children get infected</p>
			<p begin="00:31:45.900" end="00:31:48,280" style="1">with early in life,and their immune systems handles it</p>
			<p begin="00:31:48.360" end="00:31:50,820" style="1">somewhat differently and probablymore efficiently.</p>
			<p begin="00:31:51.840" end="00:31:56,140" style="1">They live in symbiosis with the virus,or they may just retain</p>
			<p begin="00:31:56.220" end="00:31:59,080" style="1">viral antigen material,which stimulates the immune system</p>
			<p begin="00:31:59.160" end="00:32:02,340" style="1">enough to keep the antibody tighter,high enough, so it&apos;s detectable.</p>
			<p begin="00:32:06.840" end="00:32:10,240" style="1">I think,getting down to the real nitty-gritty</p>
			<p begin="00:32:10.320" end="00:32:13,740" style="1">and some of the socioeconomic problemsthat we&apos;re having with AIDS,</p>
			<p begin="00:32:15.660" end="00:32:17,500" style="1">people in this country are very concerned</p>
			<p begin="00:32:17.580" end="00:32:23,220" style="1">about the government not doingits bit for the AIDS dilemma.</p>
			<p begin="00:32:24.120" end="00:32:28,240" style="1">They&apos;ve declared it a medical emergency,but they&apos;re not giving</p>
			<p begin="00:32:28.320" end="00:32:32,320" style="1">the appropriate amount of attentionin terms of dollars for research,</p>
			<p begin="00:32:32.400" end="00:32:38,100" style="1">dollars for education,and programs for caring for these patients.</p>
			<p begin="00:32:39.660" end="00:32:42,340" style="1">I think  that this hasa great number of people upset.</p>
			<p begin="00:32:42.420" end="00:32:45,880" style="1">We are supposed to bethe most progressive country in the world,</p>
			<p begin="00:32:45.960" end="00:32:48,454" style="1">and we should be settingexamples for other countries.</p>
			<p begin="00:32:48.780" end="00:32:52,780" style="1">With this being a pandemic,I think we have to be very careful</p>
			<p begin="00:32:52.860" end="00:32:56,460" style="1">and look at these other countrieswhere AIDS is flourishing.</p>
			<p begin="00:32:57.300" end="00:33:01,780" style="1">The first 15,400 cases,and this was as of November</p>
			<p begin="00:33:01.860" end="00:33:06,489" style="1">I think of 1985, cost the government</p>
			<p begin="00:33:06.569" end="00:33:09,880" style="1">$4.1 billion in direct and indirect costs.</p>
			<p begin="00:33:09.960" end="00:33:12,700" style="1">Now, this was the care of these patients.</p>
			<p begin="00:33:12.780" end="00:33:17,200" style="1">This had nothing to dowith the loss of work,</p>
			<p begin="00:33:17.280" end="00:33:20,040" style="1">that is, these patients die prematurely.</p>
			<p begin="00:33:20.880" end="00:33:26,740" style="1">There&apos;s a horrendous lossof manpower and professional work hours,</p>
			<p begin="00:33:26.820" end="00:33:30,640" style="1">and that is not taken into accountwith these figures.</p>
			<p begin="00:33:30.720" end="00:33:32,213" style="1">I just want to point that out.</p>
			<p begin="00:33:32.580" end="00:33:37,240" style="1">The proposed government expenditurefor AIDS education and the AIDS programs</p>
			<p begin="00:33:37.320" end="00:33:39,720" style="1">throughout the country,and there are a number of them,</p>
			<p begin="00:33:41.100" end="00:33:45,720" style="1">in 1987 is $411 million.</p>
			<p begin="00:33:46.560" end="00:33:51,420" style="1">In 1988, it&apos;s projected at $534 million.</p>
			<p begin="00:33:52.440" end="00:33:54,340" style="1">The National Academy of Science and CDC</p>
			<p begin="00:33:54.420" end="00:33:57,660" style="1">think that these arewoefully inadequate, very inadequate.</p>
			<p begin="00:33:58.123" end="00:34:00,520" style="1">The study that was doneby the National Academy of Science</p>
			<p begin="00:34:00.600" end="00:34:02,783" style="1">in conjunctionwith the Institute of Medicine</p>
			<p begin="00:34:02.940" end="00:34:05,800" style="1">indicates that, by 1990,</p>
			<p begin="00:34:05.880" end="00:34:10,200" style="1">the government is going to be spendingmore than $2 billion for the AIDS problem.</p>
			<p begin="00:34:11.520" end="00:34:15,700" style="1">By 1991, and you saw the curves,the increased incidents,</p>
			<p begin="00:34:15.780" end="00:34:21,520" style="1">remember by January of 1991, we&apos;re goingto have almost 270,000 cases of AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:34:21.600" end="00:34:24,040" style="1">That&apos;s the projectionsand our conservative projections.</p>
			<p begin="00:34:24.120" end="00:34:26,400" style="1">It&apos;s going to costthe government $8 billion.</p>
			<p begin="00:34:27.300" end="00:34:29,340" style="1">Truly, this is a medical emergency.</p>
			<p begin="00:34:29.400" end="00:34:30,880" style="1">It&apos;s certainly going to influence</p>
			<p begin="00:34:30.960" end="00:34:33,149" style="1">the cost of medical carehere in this country.</p>
			<p begin="00:34:35.400" end="00:34:38,080" style="1">One other sad statisticabout these AIDS patients</p>
			<p begin="00:34:38.160" end="00:34:41,200" style="1">is that not a lot of themhave third-party carrier insurance</p>
			<p begin="00:34:41.280" end="00:34:42,720" style="1">or cover.</p>
			<p begin="00:34:43.560" end="00:34:47,880" style="1">There are 40% of themwhich do not have medical health insurance.</p>
			<p begin="00:34:49.403" end="00:34:51,640" style="1">That means that you and Iare going to help defray</p>
			<p begin="00:34:51.720" end="00:34:56,887" style="1">the costs of these AIDS programsand caring for AIDS patients.</p>
			<p begin="00:34:56.968" end="00:34:58,660" style="1">The other thingthat they&apos;re concerned about</p>
			<p begin="00:34:58.740" end="00:35:03,240" style="1">is healthcare personneland helping to care for these patients.</p>
			<p begin="00:35:06.120" end="00:35:08,560" style="1">I think if one looksat this more carefully,</p>
			<p begin="00:35:08.640" end="00:35:11,320" style="1">I think you can seewhy it&apos;s such a horrendous expense.</p>
			<p begin="00:35:11.400" end="00:35:16,480" style="1">I looked at the costsof an average-age patient</p>
			<p begin="00:35:16.560" end="00:35:18,400" style="1">being hospitalizedfrom the time of diagnosis</p>
			<p begin="00:35:18.480" end="00:35:21,600" style="1">was made to the time of deathin various parts of the country.</p>
			<p begin="00:35:22.680" end="00:35:27,340" style="1">This is inpatient billing only.</p>
			<p begin="00:35:27.420" end="00:35:30,179" style="1">Keep that in mind.This is patients who are in the hospital.</p>
			<p begin="00:35:30.900" end="00:35:32,380" style="1">In San Francisco General Hospital,</p>
			<p begin="00:35:32.460" end="00:35:35,320" style="1">where there&apos;s a great numberof AIDS programs that are being funded,</p>
			<p begin="00:35:35.400" end="00:35:38,020" style="1">national grants,and there&apos;s a big house staff,</p>
			<p begin="00:35:38.100" end="00:35:41,340" style="1">and many of these thingsare not charged to the AIDS patient.</p>
			<p begin="00:35:42.720" end="00:35:45,820" style="1">In fact, Paul Volberding,who&apos;s the head honcho</p>
			<p begin="00:35:45.900" end="00:35:48,700" style="1">at San Francisco General Hospitalwho&apos;s written a great deal about AIDS,</p>
			<p begin="00:35:48.780" end="00:35:53,140" style="1">has a tremendousamount of manpower at his availability</p>
			<p begin="00:35:53.220" end="00:35:55,740" style="1">to go ahead and implementsome of these programs.</p>
			<p begin="00:35:56.280" end="00:35:59,620" style="1">He&apos;s been heavily grantedby NCI or the NIH</p>
			<p begin="00:35:59.700" end="00:36:01,840" style="1">to carry out some of these programs.</p>
			<p begin="00:36:01.920" end="00:36:07,900" style="1">He&apos;s been really one of the first personswho&apos;s gathered meaningful statistics</p>
			<p begin="00:36:07.980" end="00:36:11,440" style="1">concerning these AIDS patientsand the care of these AIDS patients</p>
			<p begin="00:36:11.520" end="00:36:12,600" style="1">on an inpatient basis.</p>
			<p begin="00:36:13.860" end="00:36:16,900" style="1">The bill for the average patientin San Francisco General Hospital</p>
			<p begin="00:36:16.980" end="00:36:18,540" style="1">was $27,500.</p>
			<p begin="00:36:19.140" end="00:36:21,280" style="1">This was surprisingly low.</p>
			<p begin="00:36:21.360" end="00:36:24,100" style="1">Jerry Groopman, who was outat the New England Deaconess Hospital,</p>
			<p begin="00:36:24.180" end="00:36:28,000" style="1">again, who was a very prominent figure</p>
			<p begin="00:36:28.080" end="00:36:32,680" style="1">in the AIDS research areaestimated or calculated</p>
			<p begin="00:36:32.760" end="00:36:38,033" style="1">by looking at his age patientsthat it costs an average of $46,500</p>
			<p begin="00:36:38.114" end="00:36:40,165" style="1">for these patientsduring their hospitalization.</p>
			<p begin="00:36:40.246" end="00:36:42,569" style="1">Now keep in mindthat the average-age patient</p>
			<p begin="00:36:42.831" end="00:36:45,580" style="1">is hospitalized about 3.2 times</p>
			<p begin="00:36:45.660" end="00:36:48,520" style="1">from the time the diagnosis is madeuntil the time of death.</p>
			<p begin="00:36:48.600" end="00:36:51,780" style="1">That the average survivalis about 1 year, 13 months.</p>
			<p begin="00:36:52.680" end="00:36:56,040" style="1">The average number of daysthey spend in a hospital is about 60 or 58.</p>
			<p begin="00:36:57.540" end="00:37:01,420" style="1">The CaliforniaDepartment of Health Services,</p>
			<p begin="00:37:01.500" end="00:37:05,920" style="1">which gather their statisticsprimarily from Southern California Hospitals,</p>
			<p begin="00:37:06.000" end="00:37:12,187" style="1">estimated that it costs $67,300</p>
			<p begin="00:37:12.267" end="00:37:15,280" style="1">for AIDS patients in the hospitalsin Southern California.</p>
			<p begin="00:37:15.360" end="00:37:17,320" style="1">These is the AIDS patients&apos; bills.</p>
			<p begin="00:37:17.400" end="00:37:19,080" style="1">Again, inpatient medicine.</p>
			<p begin="00:37:19.920" end="00:37:21,360" style="1">Here at St. Joseph&apos;s Hospital,</p>
			<p begin="00:37:21.960" end="00:37:25,420" style="1">I took an AIDS patientwho was diagnosed as AIDS here.</p>
			<p begin="00:37:25.500" end="00:37:29,680" style="1">He had all his hospitalizations here,which was three, by the way,</p>
			<p begin="00:37:29.760" end="00:37:33,520" style="1">and he died this past November.</p>
			<p begin="00:37:33.600" end="00:37:34,900" style="1">He lived about 15 months,</p>
			<p begin="00:37:34.980" end="00:37:39,540" style="1">so right on the money herewith the average, almost.</p>
			<p begin="00:37:40.140" end="00:37:42,940" style="1">He was hospitalizeda little longer than 58 days, though,</p>
			<p begin="00:37:43.020" end="00:37:44,880" style="1">if you calculatedhis three hospitalizations.</p>
			<p begin="00:37:45.840" end="00:37:48,160" style="1">With the help of Debbie Sossamonwho helped gather</p>
			<p begin="00:37:48.240" end="00:37:51,120" style="1">all these statistics for meand looking at the hospital bills--</p>
			<p begin="00:37:52.740" end="00:37:56,680" style="1">Debbie worksat the Infectious Disease Control office.</p>
			<p begin="00:37:56.760" end="00:38:00,934" style="1">We calculated that our patient&apos;s billwas a little over $47,000.</p>
			<p begin="00:38:01.015" end="00:38:03,457" style="1">It was about $47,400.</p>
			<p begin="00:38:04.020" end="00:38:07,320" style="1">Again, let me reiteratethat this is only inpatient billings.</p>
			<p begin="00:38:08.160" end="00:38:09,820" style="1">We really don&apos;t havea good handle on</p>
			<p begin="00:38:09.900" end="00:38:11,800" style="1">outpatient coststo these patients.</p>
			<p begin="00:38:11.880" end="00:38:14,860" style="1">We have no idea aboutthe education programs</p>
			<p begin="00:38:14.940" end="00:38:19,440" style="1">and the other ancillary healthcare workerswho visit these patients.</p>
			<p begin="00:38:20.520" end="00:38:22,780" style="1">The only thing we can look atis the hard figures</p>
			<p begin="00:38:22.860" end="00:38:25,262" style="1">that come out of the hospitalwith the hospital bills.</p>
			<p begin="00:38:25.366" end="00:38:29,440" style="1">Now, much of the outpatient care is,in fact, provided by the government,</p>
			<p begin="00:38:29.520" end="00:38:30,820" style="1">at least some of it is.</p>
			<p begin="00:38:30.900" end="00:38:33,880" style="1">The medications that they&apos;re on,</p>
			<p begin="00:38:33.960" end="00:38:35,680" style="1">a token medicationsthat they&apos;ve been put on,</p>
			<p begin="00:38:35.760" end="00:38:39,180" style="1">these small drug programshave not been charged for.</p>
			<p begin="00:38:39.960" end="00:38:42,220" style="1">Again, we really don&apos;t have a good handle</p>
			<p begin="00:38:42.300" end="00:38:47,520" style="1">on the non-inpatient AIDS cost,that is, the outpatient care.</p>
			<p begin="00:38:48.120" end="00:38:49,780" style="1">I should add, too, in San Francisco,</p>
			<p begin="00:38:49.860" end="00:38:52,260" style="1">they don&apos;t keep these patientsin a hospital very long.</p>
			<p begin="00:38:53.220" end="00:38:56,020" style="1">I don&apos;t know whether it&apos;s becausethey do they need to do quickly,</p>
			<p begin="00:38:56.100" end="00:39:00,280" style="1">they expedite their care,but the average number of hospital days</p>
			<p begin="00:39:00.360" end="00:39:03,160" style="1">in San Francisco patientswas considerably lower than it was</p>
			<p begin="00:39:03.240" end="00:39:06,160" style="1">in New England Deaconess Instituteand in the California Department</p>
			<p begin="00:39:06.240" end="00:39:08,040" style="1">of Health Service study.</p>
			<p begin="00:39:09.600" end="00:39:11,980" style="1">You can see what it costs at St.</p>
			<p begin="00:39:12.060" end="00:39:14,740" style="1">Joseph&apos;s Hospital for an AIDS patient.It&apos;s a typical AIDS patient,</p>
			<p begin="00:39:14.820" end="00:39:18,720" style="1">at least by wayof these national statistics here.</p>
			<p begin="00:39:19.800" end="00:39:25,180" style="1">Getting a little closer to home,in Wisconsin, there are 135 cases of AIDS</p>
			<p begin="00:39:25.260" end="00:39:29,022" style="1">registered at the state CDCin talking to Jim [?].</p>
			<p begin="00:39:29.578" end="00:39:32,880" style="1">Now, these are interesting statistics,so pay attention.</p>
			<p begin="00:39:34.080" end="00:39:38,680" style="1">The non-residents, that is,the patients who contracted their AIDS</p>
			<p begin="00:39:38.760" end="00:39:42,240" style="1">outside of the state of Wisconsin,was 45. 50%.</p>
			<p begin="00:39:46.320" end="00:39:48,400" style="1">The residents, the number of patients</p>
			<p begin="00:39:48.480" end="00:39:51,340" style="1">who contracted their diseasein Wisconsin was 90.</p>
			<p begin="00:39:51.420" end="00:39:55,420" style="1">It&apos;s twice as many residents as non-residentsthat we have registered now.</p>
			<p begin="00:39:55.500" end="00:39:57,700" style="1">Of course, this is the total.</p>
			<p begin="00:39:57.780" end="00:40:00,574" style="1">Now if we lookat the number of cases, in 1986,</p>
			<p begin="00:40:00.654" end="00:40:03,838" style="1">there were 60 new cases in Wisconsin.</p>
			<p begin="00:40:04.800" end="00:40:07,680" style="1">Look at the differencein resident, non-resident cases.</p>
			<p begin="00:40:08.220" end="00:40:12,460" style="1">There were 48 resident cases,and there were only 12 non-resident cases.</p>
			<p begin="00:40:12.540" end="00:40:17,320" style="1">Now, what this means is thatmany patients contract their disease</p>
			<p begin="00:40:17.400" end="00:40:19,600" style="1">elsewhere, in other states,and other big urban areas</p>
			<p begin="00:40:19.680" end="00:40:20,920" style="1">that I showed you on the earlier slides,</p>
			<p begin="00:40:21.000" end="00:40:23,320" style="1">and they come back to Wisconsinbecause Wisconsin is their home.</p>
			<p begin="00:40:23.400" end="00:40:26,340" style="1">They come back hereto spend their last time with their family.</p>
			<p begin="00:40:27.480" end="00:40:29,260" style="1">Most of these patientsdie here in Wisconsin,</p>
			<p begin="00:40:29.340" end="00:40:31,800" style="1">and  they&apos;re countedas non-resident cases.</p>
			<p begin="00:40:33.480" end="00:40:37,540" style="1">That&apos;s what we were seeing in the early yearswhen we were collecting the cases.</p>
			<p begin="00:40:37.620" end="00:40:41,620" style="1">These people were coming backfrom Miami and San Francisco or San Diego.</p>
			<p begin="00:40:41.700" end="00:40:44,674" style="1">Indeed, that&apos;s been our experience herewith the six cases that we have had.</p>
			<p begin="00:40:44.880" end="00:40:47,280" style="1">Most of these patientscontracted their disease elsewhere.</p>
			<p begin="00:40:48.600" end="00:40:51,520" style="1">You can see the trend is changing.Trend is changing.</p>
			<p begin="00:40:51.600" end="00:40:52,860" style="1">By far and away,</p>
			<p begin="00:40:53.460" end="00:40:57,900" style="1">there are many more resident casesthan there were non-resident cases in 1986.</p>
			<p begin="00:40:58.680" end="00:41:00,760" style="1">Of course, you can seethe  significant increase</p>
			<p begin="00:41:00.840" end="00:41:03,460" style="1">in a number of cases in 1986.</p>
			<p begin="00:41:03.540" end="00:41:05,740" style="1">We had a total of 135 cases,</p>
			<p begin="00:41:05.820" end="00:41:09,100" style="1">60 of which were picked upand registered in 1986 alone.</p>
			<p begin="00:41:09.180" end="00:41:13,680" style="1">Now, where are these being picked up?Of course, as you might imagine,</p>
			<p begin="00:41:13.922" end="00:41:15,640" style="1">in the large urban areas of Wisconsin,</p>
			<p begin="00:41:15.721" end="00:41:19,331" style="1">57 cases in Milwaukee County</p>
			<p begin="00:41:19.411" end="00:41:23,221" style="1">and 21 cases in Dane County.</p>
			<p begin="00:41:25.673" end="00:41:32,560" style="1">You can see that we&apos;re not really immuneto the AIDS problem here in Wisconsin,</p>
			<p begin="00:41:32.640" end="00:41:36,900" style="1">even though we think of ourselvesas being a rural community or rural state.</p>
			<p begin="00:41:37.620" end="00:41:39,520" style="1">Let me expand on that a little bit.</p>
			<p begin="00:41:39.600" end="00:41:43,000" style="1">I think CDC is well awarethat this has been,</p>
			<p begin="00:41:43.080" end="00:41:48,820" style="1">to this point, a very urban disease,but they estimate that there will be</p>
			<p begin="00:41:48.900" end="00:41:51,460" style="1">an equal number of casesin the next five years coming</p>
			<p begin="00:41:51.540" end="00:41:54,360" style="1">from rural areas in smaller urban areas.</p>
			<p begin="00:41:56.160" end="00:41:58,960" style="1">Again, this is primarilydue to the different modes of transmission</p>
			<p begin="00:41:59.040" end="00:42:02,940" style="1">that we&apos;re seeing, ie,the heterosexual population.</p>
			<p begin="00:42:06.900" end="00:42:09,400" style="1">Here at Marshfield,our experience thus far,</p>
			<p begin="00:42:09.480" end="00:42:12,700" style="1">we saw our first AIDS patient in--</p>
			<p begin="00:42:12.780" end="00:42:15,880" style="1">well, I diagnosed himas having ARC in January of 1984.</p>
			<p begin="00:42:15.960" end="00:42:18,120" style="1">He died in June of 1984.</p>
			<p begin="00:42:18.534" end="00:42:19,780" style="1">Since that time,</p>
			<p begin="00:42:19.860" end="00:42:25,540" style="1">we&apos;ve registered six cases with CDC,and we&apos;re now following eight cases of ARC.</p>
			<p begin="00:42:25.620" end="00:42:26,980" style="1">This is the AIDS-related complex.</p>
			<p begin="00:42:27.060" end="00:42:30,160" style="1">That is, these arepatients who have immune deficiency</p>
			<p begin="00:42:30.240" end="00:42:35,020" style="1">who do not have the criteriato make the diagnosis of AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:42:35.100" end="00:42:38,260" style="1">CDC has been very rigidabout these criteria</p>
			<p begin="00:42:38.340" end="00:42:40,060" style="1">of making the diagnosis of AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:42:40.140" end="00:42:42,460" style="1">There&apos;s a very interesting editorial</p>
			<p begin="00:42:42.540" end="00:42:44,560" style="1">on some of that materialthat I handed out to you</p>
			<p begin="00:42:44.640" end="00:42:50,140" style="1">that&apos;s in the Annals of Internal Medicinethis past month pointing out</p>
			<p begin="00:42:50.220" end="00:42:54,580" style="1">this whole nebulous areaof how you make the diagnosis of AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:42:54.660" end="00:42:59,380" style="1">You&apos;ve got to have either a complicating,an opportunistic infection,</p>
			<p begin="00:42:59.460" end="00:43:02,980" style="1">or a malignancy associatedwith the immune deficiency state</p>
			<p begin="00:43:03.060" end="00:43:06,820" style="1">in order to be classifiedor categorized and registered as AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:43:06.900" end="00:43:09,820" style="1">We all know that AIDS is a spectrum.</p>
			<p begin="00:43:09.900" end="00:43:12,340" style="1">Patients may be entirely asymptomatic</p>
			<p begin="00:43:12.420" end="00:43:14,620" style="1">initially and then developthe AIDS-related complex,</p>
			<p begin="00:43:14.700" end="00:43:18,220" style="1">which they may be just asymptomaticand have anemia.</p>
			<p begin="00:43:18.300" end="00:43:21,360" style="1">They may have a reversalof their T-site subset ratio.</p>
			<p begin="00:43:22.740" end="00:43:25,380" style="1">It&apos;s a continuum process.</p>
			<p begin="00:43:26.580" end="00:43:30,040" style="1">It&apos;s probably not accurateto just register those patients who</p>
			<p begin="00:43:30.120" end="00:43:34,200" style="1">develop opportunistic infectionsand malignancies as having AIDS.</p>
			<p begin="00:43:35.400" end="00:43:37,800" style="1">Five out of our six patients have died.</p>
			<p begin="00:43:38.520" end="00:43:41,740" style="1">Of course,I guess that didn&apos;t surprise anybody.</p>
			<p begin="00:43:41.820" end="00:43:46,080" style="1">Again, I reiterate 80% of the patientswill die within 24 months.</p>
			<p begin="00:43:46.920" end="00:43:49,420" style="1">The average survivalafter the diagnosis is made</p>
			<p begin="00:43:49.500" end="00:43:50,760" style="1">as about 13 months.</p>
			<p begin="00:43:51.853" end="00:43:54,880" style="1">We&apos;re continuing to watch.I don&apos;t know how many cases we have</p>
			<p begin="00:43:54.960" end="00:43:57,900" style="1">of people who are asymptomaticand just simply HTLV-3 positive.</p>
			<p begin="00:43:58.800" end="00:44:02,920" style="1">The ARC patients arepatients who do have some features</p>
			<p begin="00:44:03.000" end="00:44:08,740" style="1">of immune suppression, immune deficiency,and we&apos;re going to continue to follow them.</p>
			<p begin="00:44:08.820" end="00:44:11,380" style="1">We&apos;re following them mostly withthe people in infectious disease.</p>
			<p begin="00:44:11.460" end="00:44:15,040" style="1">Bruce Hathaway, Doug Lee, Ray Hazel,</p>
			<p begin="00:44:15.120" end="00:44:19,560" style="1">and Tom Sell are allinvolved with the AIDS patient.</p>
			<p begin="00:44:22.680" end="00:44:25,920" style="1">How do these patients present?Well, it&apos;s the same old story.</p>
			<p begin="00:44:26.520" end="00:44:29,440" style="1">Most of these patientspresent with opportunistic infections</p>
			<p begin="00:44:29.520" end="00:44:33,100" style="1">or malignancies, and of course,that&apos;s how you make the diagnosis.</p>
			<p begin="00:44:33.180" end="00:44:35,920" style="1">The most prominent typeof opportunistic infection</p>
			<p begin="00:44:36.000" end="00:44:39,780" style="1">is the bilateral pneumonitiscaused by pneumocystis carinii.</p>
			<p begin="00:44:40.620" end="00:44:44,520" style="1">This is thought to be an organism,which, indeed, is an opportunistic type.</p>
			<p begin="00:44:45.120" end="00:44:46,920" style="1">It affects people who are immune suppressed.</p>
			<p begin="00:44:47.820" end="00:44:51,940" style="1">There&apos;s a significant number of patientswho present with Kaposi&apos;s sarcoma.</p>
			<p begin="00:44:52.020" end="00:44:54,100" style="1">One of the curious thingsabout Kaposi&apos;s sarcoma is,</p>
			<p begin="00:44:54.180" end="00:44:56,200" style="1">as I mentioned earlier,it&apos;s not a very common type</p>
			<p begin="00:44:56.280" end="00:44:57,300" style="1">of malignancy,number one.</p>
			<p begin="00:44:57.900" end="00:45:00,100" style="1">Number two,it seems to be much, much more common</p>
			<p begin="00:45:00.180" end="00:45:05,580" style="1">in the homosexual population with AIDSrather than the IV drug users.</p>
			<p begin="00:45:09.060" end="00:45:12,120" style="1">CDC is  still perplexedas to why this is the case.</p>
			<p begin="00:45:13.320" end="00:45:16,020" style="1">Kaposi&apos;s sarcoma isso much more common in San Francisco</p>
			<p begin="00:45:16.860" end="00:45:19,200" style="1">than it is in New Yorkwith respect to the numbers.</p>
			<p begin="00:45:20.340" end="00:45:24,280" style="1">It&apos;s because ofthe proportionately higher number</p>
			<p begin="00:45:24.360" end="00:45:29,920" style="1">of patients who are gay and develop AIDSas compared to the heterosexual</p>
			<p begin="00:45:30.000" end="00:45:32,040" style="1">population who are IV drug usersin New York City.</p>
			<p begin="00:45:33.540" end="00:45:37,240" style="1">It&apos;s not uncommon at all to haveKaposi&apos;s sarcoma and pneumocystis carinii.</p>
			<p begin="00:45:37.320" end="00:45:41,440" style="1">In fact, our last patientthat just died last month presented</p>
			<p begin="00:45:41.520" end="00:45:44,620" style="1">with bilateral pneumocystis carinii,and he developed</p>
			<p begin="00:45:44.700" end="00:45:47,560" style="1">during his hospitalization hereat St. Joe&apos;s Kaposi&apos;s sarcoma.</p>
			<p begin="00:45:47.640" end="00:45:49,140" style="1">Developed this right under our nose.</p>
			<p begin="00:45:50.580" end="00:45:55,300" style="1">Other opportunistic infections, absolutely,a wide array of opportunistic infections.</p>
			<p begin="00:45:55.380" end="00:45:58,540" style="1">Some organisms that microbiologistshave never really even heard</p>
			<p begin="00:45:58.620" end="00:46:01,560" style="1">of before and certainlynot infecting humans.</p>
			<p begin="00:46:03.300" end="00:46:05,820" style="1">This spectrum continues to grow,by the way.</p>
			<p begin="00:46:07.380" end="00:46:11,140" style="1">Apparently, this never ceases a surprise,the microbiologists</p>
			<p begin="00:46:11.220" end="00:46:14,380" style="1">as to the new organismswhich are being picked up</p>
			<p begin="00:46:14.460" end="00:46:17,820" style="1">in these patientswho have profound immune deficiency.</p>
			<p begin="00:46:18.275" end="00:46:19,540" style="1">Malignant lymphomas,</p>
			<p begin="00:46:19.620" end="00:46:24,460" style="1">and I should spend a moment on this,the incidence of malignant lymphomas</p>
			<p begin="00:46:24.540" end="00:46:27,060" style="1">in the AIDS patientis growing all the time.</p>
			<p begin="00:46:27.960" end="00:46:30,040" style="1">This is a large cell type of lymphoma.</p>
			<p begin="00:46:30.120" end="00:46:32,080" style="1">A very aggressive type of lymphoma.</p>
			<p begin="00:46:32.160" end="00:46:35,460" style="1">Frequently has central nervous systeminvolvement primarily.</p>
			<p begin="00:46:36.420" end="00:46:40,000" style="1">These patients run a very short course.</p>
			<p begin="00:46:40.080" end="00:46:42,900" style="1">They are not very sensitiveto chemotherapy.</p>
			<p begin="00:46:43.860" end="00:46:48,840" style="1">Again, it&apos;s a very aggressive typeof large cell lymphoma that we&apos;re seeing.</p>
			<p begin="00:46:50.940" end="00:46:54,640" style="1">I should mention, too,that there is a relatively new syndrome</p>
			<p begin="00:46:54.720" end="00:47:00,100" style="1">of central nervous system syndromethat&apos;s been reported in AIDS patients.</p>
			<p begin="00:47:00.180" end="00:47:02,100" style="1">This is being reportedwith increasing frequency.</p>
			<p begin="00:47:03.240" end="00:47:06,580" style="1">The AIDS virus has been foundin a central nervous system.</p>
			<p begin="00:47:06.660" end="00:47:07,960" style="1">I think, tomorrow, I&apos;ll show you</p>
			<p begin="00:47:08.040" end="00:47:10,380" style="1">what cells the AIDS virushas been picked up in.</p>
			<p begin="00:47:10.980" end="00:47:16,720" style="1">I think that the syndrome isone of a wide variety of presentations</p>
			<p begin="00:47:16.800" end="00:47:19,480" style="1">that these patients may presentwith dementia.</p>
			<p begin="00:47:19.560" end="00:47:23,760" style="1">They may presentwith extensive motor and sensory deficit.</p>
			<p begin="00:47:24.720" end="00:47:28,000" style="1">The histopathology is very, very analogous</p>
			<p begin="00:47:28.080" end="00:47:31,180" style="1">to a demyelinating processor multiple sclerosis.</p>
			<p begin="00:47:31.260" end="00:47:35,200" style="1">In fact, some of the NMR studiesshown in these AIDS patients</p>
			<p begin="00:47:35.280" end="00:47:37,360" style="1">can actually pick upthese large plaque areas</p>
			<p begin="00:47:37.440" end="00:47:39,867" style="1">where there&apos;s de-modernizationoccurring in the white matter.</p>
			<p begin="00:47:40.800" end="00:47:47,740" style="1">Again, we continue to learnabout this virus and the AIDS dilemma.</p>
			<p begin="00:47:47.820" end="00:47:52,720" style="1">I think that we&apos;re going to haveto get a handle on this thing very soon</p>
			<p begin="00:47:52.800" end="00:47:56,500" style="1">because of the numberof cases throughout the</p>
			<p begin="00:47:56.580" end="00:47:58,360" style="1">entire populationcontinues to grow.</p>
			<p begin="00:47:58.440" end="00:48:00,400" style="1">This is one of our patientsthat we have here.</p>
			<p begin="00:48:00.480" end="00:48:02,440" style="1">Many of you recognize this patient.</p>
			<p begin="00:48:02.520" end="00:48:04,120" style="1">He was a young man from Steven&apos;s Point</p>
			<p begin="00:48:04.200" end="00:48:07,600" style="1">who died last year from AIDSin his complications.</p>
			<p begin="00:48:07.680" end="00:48:10,240" style="1">He&apos;s got extensive Kaposi&apos;s sarcoma.</p>
			<p begin="00:48:10.320" end="00:48:12,640" style="1">Ray Hazel and Itook care of this young man.</p>
			<p begin="00:48:12.720" end="00:48:14,860" style="1">He had two bone marrow transplants at NIH.</p>
			<p begin="00:48:14.940" end="00:48:20,920" style="1">He was followed at NIH and herefor about a year with his disease.</p>
			<p begin="00:48:21.000" end="00:48:24,220" style="1">These are the Kaposi&apos;s lesions on his face.</p>
			<p begin="00:48:24.300" end="00:48:28,120" style="1">By the way, these are not justcutaneous malignant lesions.</p>
			<p begin="00:48:28.200" end="00:48:30,520" style="1">These occur all through the GI tractand may occur</p>
			<p begin="00:48:30.600" end="00:48:34,060" style="1">in a central nervous system as well.A curious thing about Kaposi&apos;s, though,</p>
			<p begin="00:48:34.140" end="00:48:37,920" style="1">it&apos;s not very commonlythe cause of death in AIDS patients.</p>
			<p begin="00:48:38.940" end="00:48:43,120" style="1">Most frequently, these patients will get,in conjunction with their Kaposi&apos;s,</p>
			<p begin="00:48:43.200" end="00:48:46,560" style="1">opportunistic infections and will dieof the opportunistic infections.</p>
			<p begin="00:48:47.193" end="00:48:50,740" style="1">The opportunistic infections arehorrendous and are very difficult to treat.</p>
			<p begin="00:48:50.820" end="00:48:53,500" style="1">This is a chest x-rayof our first AIDS patient</p>
			<p begin="00:48:53.580" end="00:48:57,220" style="1">who was admitted to the hospital,I think, on Memorial Day of 1984.</p>
			<p begin="00:48:57.300" end="00:49:00,550" style="1">This is what his chest x-ray looked like.He died 10 days later.</p>
			<p begin="00:49:01.080" end="00:49:02,880" style="1">He had bilateral pneumocystis carinii.</p>
			<p begin="00:49:04.020" end="00:49:05,260" style="1">I think I&apos;ll stop there.</p>
			<p begin="00:49:05.340" end="00:49:09,180" style="1">If any of you want to stay around, I hopethe Infectious Disease people will stay.</p>
			<p begin="00:49:10.200" end="00:49:15,280" style="1">Is Doug Corey here?Doug&apos;s been interested in this.</p>
			<p begin="00:49:15.360" end="00:49:18,100" style="1">Dean Crystal just got back from a meeting,so they&apos;ve got all the latest scoop</p>
			<p begin="00:49:18.180" end="00:49:21,360" style="1">on these statisticsin terms of infectivity,</p>
			<p begin="00:49:22.200" end="00:49:24,900" style="1">the number of the incidentsof positive</p>
			<p begin="00:49:27.900" end="00:49:30,180" style="1">HTLV-3 specimensin blood donors.</p>
			<p begin="00:49:30.840" end="00:49:33,780" style="1">I think these are thingsthat we&apos;re all very interested in.</p>
			<p begin="00:49:36.810" end="00:49:38,620" style="1">I&apos;ll go ahead and entertain some questions.</p>
			<p begin="00:49:38.700" end="00:49:41,020" style="1">Don&apos;t forget, tomorrow, we&apos;re goingto talk primarily about the virus</p>
			<p begin="00:49:41.100" end="00:49:45,420" style="1">and about the immunology,the immune deficiency syndrome.</p>
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